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Air Force Scramjet test is a complete success!

Started by jimmy olsen, May 06, 2013, 09:27:25 PM

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jimmy olsen

That would be a 155 minute flight from Boston to Seoul! :mmm:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/geekquinox/u-military-scramjet-breaks-hypersonic-speed-record-213138420.html

QuoteU.S. Military 'scramjet' breaks hypersonic speed record
By Scott Sutherland | Geekquinox – Sat, 4 May, 2013

The Boeing X-51A 'Waverider'The Boeing X-51A, an experimental 'scramjet' missile for the U.S. Military, broke hypersonic speed records this week as it flew at Mach 5.1 for three and a half minutes.

The X-51A is nicknamed The Waverider, due to riding the shockwave of compressed air that it creates as it flies. Its scramjet engine is similar to a jet engine, but it can work at much high altitudes and much faster speeds. Jet engines are limited by altitude and speed because the air gets too thin and it's moving too quickly to properly ignite it. However, the scramjet is able to both slow the air down and compress it, so that it can concentrate and ignite the oxygen in the air, but then still force the air out the back of the engine at hypersonic speeds.

The X-51A test took place on May 1, when the Waverider took just over six minutes to fly 230 nautical miles (425 kilometres), reaching speeds of over five times the speed of sound.

Although this test was conducted by the Military, it apparently wasn't to test for a new weapon, but as a general test of the technology for future applications.

"This demonstration of a practical hypersonic scramjet engine is a historic achievement that has been years in the making," said Darryl Davis, president of Boeing Phantom Works, according to Reuters. "This test proves the technology has matured to the point that it opens the door to practical applications, such as advanced defense systems and more cost-effective access to space."

The staff at Boeing are looking into its potential for commercial air travel, calling it the 'warp speed of today'.

The first test of the Waverider, back in May 2010, saw the vehicle reaching a speed of Mach 5.0 for 143 seconds. The two tests after that were less successful, with the test last August ending in failure, apparently due to a fault in one of its control fins. However, this week's test was seen as a complete success.

"It was a full mission success," said Charlie Brink, the U.S. Air Force's X-51A Program Manager. "All we have learned from the X-51A Waverider will serve as the bedrock for future hypersonics research and ultimately the practical application of hypersonic flight."
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QuoteMach 5.0 for 143 seconds.

That's a lot of rape.

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jimmy olsen

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The real question is how much fuel was consumed, and the engine efficiency.

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Neil

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 06, 2013, 09:42:11 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 06, 2013, 09:35:11 PM
Why would this ever be used commercially?
If it's possible, why not?
Because it's not economically viable.  And even for the military, it doesn't really serve much purpose.  The days where we needed jet fighters to go really fast are long behind us.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 06, 2013, 09:27:25 PM
That would be a 155 minute flight from Boston to Seoul! :mmm:



For wealthy businessmen.
For you and me it would still be 12 hours squeezed into a tiny seat on a regular plane :(
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Neil

Quote from: Tyr on May 07, 2013, 02:07:51 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 06, 2013, 09:27:25 PM
That would be a 155 minute flight from Boston to Seoul! :mmm:
For wealthy businessmen.
For you and me it would still be 12 hours squeezed into a tiny seat on a regular plane :(
No.  Telecommunications has made it ridiculous to spend that kind of money.
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'cos there has been SO much interest in commercial supersonic aircraft since Concorde went boom. That's 40-year-old technology now.

Flying to New York in 3.5 hours is now consigned to the "will never do" pile, along with eating up the Post Office Tower revolving restaurant, curse you IRA!

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Quote from: Brazen on May 07, 2013, 08:44:03 AM
'cos there has been SO much interest in commercial supersonic aircraft since Concorde went boom. That's 40-year-old technology now.

Flying to New York in 3.5 hours is now consigned to the "will never do" pile, along with eating up the Post Office Tower revolving restaurant, curse you IRA!

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Quote from: Neil on May 06, 2013, 10:35:23 PM
And even for the military, it doesn't really serve much purpose.  The days where we needed jet fighters to go really fast are long behind us.

Not entirely. Hypersonic craft might be a tad hard to intercept and be able to carry out more missions in the same amount of time, allowing to cut down on procurement, maintenance and training. In addition, they could end the need to maintain expensive, vulnerable and politically inconvenient bases all over the world.

Neil

Nobody really intercepts anymore.  And you will run into fuel issues if you try and cut back on basing.
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