Is EU3 fun yet?

[Viking]

I've managed to finally survive as Byzantium.

You know the new CB and managed war system takes some getting used to.  Twice now I've started a "reconquest" war, but decided to take one non-CB province.  You really get hammered by infamy when you do that...

Tell me how? Because in the 8 games I just tried the Timurids got white peaces within 3 years and every time my war against the turk fails, do you want to know how? Well, when I take edirne the 10 galleys that are there get thrown out of port. They meet my 15 galleys and 3 cogs in the sea of marmara and beat them every time. Same tech level and they don't have a leader. Then Mehmet I the assraper (not that the greeks wouldn't enjoy that) and his 20k stack of doom get across and wipe me out.

I survived the turks once, but nobody and I mean nobody actually honours my quite legitimate calls to arms, even against the turks.

[Tamas]

regarding government systems: with fast-expanding states like Ottomans, I think it actually pays off to remain a despotic monarchy due to the infamy limit bonus.

[Martinus]

I decided to restart my game, as playing a catholic narrowminded Westernized super Poland was too easy.

Now my goal - turning Poland into a multi-religious Westernized Noble Republic. 

[Barrister]

I've managed to finally survive as Byzantium.

You know the new CB and managed war system takes some getting used to.  Twice now I've started a "reconquest" war, but decided to take one non-CB province.  You really get hammered by infamy when you do that...

Tell me how? Because in the 8 games I just tried the Timurids got white peaces within 3 years and every time my war against the turk fails, do you want to know how? Well, when I take edirne the 10 galleys that are there get thrown out of port. They meet my 15 galleys and 3 cogs in the sea of marmara and beat them every time. Same tech level and they don't have a leader. Then Mehmet I the assraper (not that the greeks wouldn't enjoy that) and his 20k stack of doom get across and wipe me out.

I survived the turks once, but nobody and I mean nobody actually honours my quite legitimate calls to arms, even against the turks.

Huh.  I usually had only 12-13 galleys, and that seemed to be enough.  The one time I succeeded my ally Wallachia had actually started the war, which meant I joined their war.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

I've managed to finally survive as Byzantium.

You know the new CB and managed war system takes some getting used to.  Twice now I've started a "reconquest" war, but decided to take one non-CB province.  You really get hammered by infamy when you do that...

Tell me how? Because in the 8 games I just tried the Timurids got white peaces within 3 years and every time my war against the turk fails, do you want to know how? Well, when I take edirne the 10 galleys that are there get thrown out of port. They meet my 15 galleys and 3 cogs in the sea of marmara and beat them every time. Same tech level and they don't have a leader. Then Mehmet I the assraper (not that the greeks wouldn't enjoy that) and his 20k stack of doom get across and wipe me out.

I survived the turks once, but nobody and I mean nobody actually honours my quite legitimate calls to arms, even against the turks.

not sure if ti will still ork but I found in IN that putting a carrack in there with the galleys really helped.

[Barrister]

Except that carracks are really quite expensive.


Hmmm... dilemma.  Ottomans are reduced to 3 provinces, but still have vassals of Bosnia and Serbia.  Venice still has Crete and Silestria that I want (plus a vassal in Naxos).

Venice has declared war on the Ottomans.

My infamy is unfortunately high, so I can't risk taking any provinces without a CB.

Who do I go after?

[Tamas]

Except that carracks are really quite expensive.


Hmmm... dilemma.  Ottomans are reduced to 3 provinces, but still have vassals of Bosnia and Serbia.  Venice still has Crete and Silestria that I want (plus a vassal in Naxos).

Venice has declared war on the Ottomans.

My infamy is unfortunately high, so I can't risk taking any provinces without a CB.

Who do I go after?

Ottomans to have them cancel their vassals.

[Barrister]

Meh - since I have no CBs on Serbia or Bosnia I'm somewhat happy for them to stay as Ottoman vassals - it prevents Hungary from swallowing them up.

[DGuller]

Try the patriot trick.  DOW them and crush them, but leave the patriots to do infamy-less annexing.

[Habbaku]

If I know Beeb, he will view that as rather gamey and not all that fun to do.  I view it the same way, myself--I've no interest in exploiting the game just to get more provinces, effectively going around the negative deterrents set up.

[Habbaku]

Speaking of imperial government, once you switch to that, should you still take up administrative monarchy when it comes around?

I guess it depends on your playstyle, but I made the switch immediately when the government type became available.  The bonuses outweighed the Empire's minor morale boost, for me.

[Tamas]

If I know Beeb, he will view that as rather gamey and not all that fun to do.  I view it the same way, myself--I've no interest in exploiting the game just to get more provinces, effectively going around the negative deterrents set up.

BTW, I found my allied vassals as Ottomans quite surprisingly useful, ever since they capture provinces in war for you and not for themselves. Altough of course I cant control their movement, but they do effectively provide me with sieging armies I dont have to maintain myself. Neat.

[katmai]

Okay can someone explain to me why after i've registered my EUIII complete and HttT the paradox forums keep telling me i can't search the EUIII forums, stupid p'dox.

[ulmont]

Okay can someone explain to me why after i've registered my EUIII complete and HttT the paradox forums keep telling me i can't search the EUIII forums, stupid p'dox.

They run the forums on basically a C-64.  The search forum was turned off years ago.

[katmai]

Okay can someone explain to me why after i've registered my EUIII complete and HttT the paradox forums keep telling me i can't search the EUIII forums, stupid p'dox.

They run the forums on basically a C-64.  The search forum was turned off years ago.

Well until I bought EU III it had been like 2004 since I was last there.