Gay and transsexual lawmakers take front seats in Polish parliament

Started by Martinus, March 06, 2013, 12:01:30 PM

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Martinus

QuoteGay and transsexual lawmakers take front seats in Polish parliament, protesting rant by Walesa

WARSAW, Poland — Poland's first openly gay and transsexual lawmakers took seats on the front bench of Parliament Wednesday to protest hostile remarks by former President Lech Walesa.

Walesa, the leading hero in Poland's successful anti-communist struggle in the 1980s, said Friday that gays belong on the back rows of Parliament, or "even behind the wall."

The words sparked huge outrage among liberal Poles, with some questioning whether the Nobel Peace Prize winner has permanently damaged his legacy as a champion of democracy. But Walesa has said he has always proven himself as a democrat and had been misunderstood. He didn't elaborate and refused to apologize.

On Wednesday, Robert Biedron, a gay rights activist, and Anna Grodzka, who had a man-to-woman sex change operation, took seats in the front row of the assembly. Both are members of the progressive Palikot's Movement party, and party leader Janusz Palikot arranged for the pair to take the seats, relinquishing his own seat to Biedron.

"Lech Walesa is an important symbol for us all and for the whole world," Biedron told The Associated Press before attending the session. "I respect him and I'd rather he used other words, words of acceptance and of respect for other people."

Walesa, a staunch Roman Catholic and a father of eight, is known for strong views and a distinctive way of expressing himself.

Palikot told the AP that he is still to decide whether the transfer of the lawmakers will be long-term.

The first row in the semi-circular lower chamber, or Sejm, is reserved for party leaders and prominent lawmakers. Biedron and Grodzka — who are lawmakers since 2011 — usually sit in the third row.

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Mainly posted so I can post this picture, which I find funny. Especially the guy on the left (the head of the post-communist Left Democratic Alliance) is clearly not having it. :D



derspiess

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Martinus

You guys are being transphobic. :P

The gay guy is also obviously gay, by the way.  :D


garbon

Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 12:06:12 PM
The gay guy is also obviously gay, by the way.  :D

Do you often sit like that. I just tried to pose the same way and it hurt my wrist. :(
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garbon

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Valmy

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Martinus

I met them both, by the way, although the transgendered MP only briefly at the Warsaw pride march.

My bf knows the gay MP very well.

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Martinus

Quote from: Valmy on March 06, 2013, 12:24:26 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 12:16:07 PM
My bf knows the gay MP very well.

Does that make you jealous?

Not really. The guy is too effeminate for me to feel threatened.

Neil

Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 12:28:32 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 06, 2013, 12:24:26 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 12:16:07 PM
My bf knows the gay MP very well.
Does that make you jealous?
Not really. The guy is too effeminate for me to feel threatened.
Aren't you all pretty effeminate?
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

garbon

Quote from: Neil on March 06, 2013, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 12:28:32 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 06, 2013, 12:24:26 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 12:16:07 PM
My bf knows the gay MP very well.
Does that make you jealous?
Not really. The guy is too effeminate for me to feel threatened.
Aren't you all pretty effeminate?

Perhaps Polish ones. Here in the US though, I'd say no.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Neil

Quote from: garbon on March 06, 2013, 12:44:08 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 06, 2013, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 12:28:32 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 06, 2013, 12:24:26 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 12:16:07 PM
My bf knows the gay MP very well.
Does that make you jealous?
Not really. The guy is too effeminate for me to feel threatened.
Aren't you all pretty effeminate?
Perhaps Polish ones. Here in the US though, I'd say no.
Using Languish as an example, I would say that the only gay here that can pass for normal is Shielbh.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.