Elementary school shooting gun control pissing contest

[Malthus]

I'm happier living in a place with sensible gun control laws, but ultimately I do not think that imposing stricter laws in the US is going to make much difference - there are millions of guns available already, and a culture in which many view gun ownership of all sorts as a right. Changing the laws under those circumstances will have about as much impact as having pot illegal in the "war on drugs" has had - namely, not much. Doesn't make sense to start an equally-futile "war on guns".

Much more effective, IMO, would be to put serious resources into mental health issues, and to overhaul the laws relating to the mentally ill. I dunno about the US, but in Ontario at least it is very difficult (really, impossible) to legally and sensibly deal with someone who is crazy and appears to be dangerous - I've seen that first hand. 

[The Brain]

Why are you afraid of your government?

Well my government does torture people in secret black sites across the world and has drones that can murder you from long range.

Another Black House nut. Great.

[merithyn]

Done

[The Minsky Moment]

Why are you afraid of your government?

Well my government does torture people in secret black sites across the world and has drones that can murder you from long range.

Yeah but a conceal carry Glock isn't going to be much protection against that.

FWIW I tend to the Caliga-Malthus view you endorse.

[Queequeg]

I'm a gonna say it.

Extensive. Gun. Control.

FUCK OFF YOU PUSSY

You want cheap and easy access to guns, move to FATA or Somalia.

Extensive. Gun. Control. will not prevent what happened.

Attack on the same day in China.  No one died.  No guns.

[11B4V]

Extensive. Gun. Control. will not prevent what happened.

Yeah it happens on a daily basis in countries with extensive gun control.  The evidence is overwhelming.

In any case, like Caliga says, the horse is way out of the barn and in any case the Supreme Court has already ruled.

Outlaw and aggressive enforcement is the only way. What do "you" want to give up?

[Valmy]

I dunno about the US, but in Ontario at least it is very difficult (really, impossible) to legally and sensibly deal with someone who is crazy and appears to be dangerous - I've seen that first hand. 

Yeah it is the same here.

[11B4V]

I'm a gonna say it.

Extensive. Gun. Control.

FUCK OFF YOU PUSSY

You want cheap and easy access to guns, move to FATA or Somalia.

Extensive. Gun. Control. will not prevent what happened.

Attack on the same day in China.  No one died.  No guns.

Notice the bold. 

[Valmy]

Outlaw and aggressive enforcement is the only way. What do "you" want to give up?

"Me"?  Not sure what you mean here but I support the Bill of Rights.  I was just discussing it as a practical matter.

If you can get rid of guns it does dramatically reduce murders and gun violence.  But that would be practically impossible here, and besides the Supreme Court already ruled against Gun Control.

[The Brain]

I think it would be beneficial if states did risk analysis as part of preparing risk management decisions. It will never happen but there you go.

[Habbaku]

Fuck off with the politics in this thread

Sounds like this asshole had an assault rifle.  Civilians just shouldn't fucking be allowed to own that shit.  This is the only time those weapons are going to be used. 

Can you explain what that means?

He's busy shooting his mouth of, so...gonna go with "no."

[derspiess]

AP is reporting that he had this:

How much does something like that go for?
Seems like there are less expensive forms of penis enlargement, at least if my spam box contents are to be believed.

I'm guessing 3 to 4 grand with the optics & whatnot.  I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this was not really the type of rifle/configuration that was used and some AP writer just used the first pic that matched his Google search.

But I tend to shake my head at overly-tricked-out mall ninja/TacticLOL guns like this one.  I could almost see it being useful for long-range shooting competition-- if it weren't for the retarded vertical foregrip.

[The Brain]

The weapon reminds me of Timmypics.

[11B4V]

Ranged weapon. Much more effective and less expensive chioces out there for what the shooter wanted to do.

[Malthus]

Ranged weapon. Much more effective and less expensive chioces out there for what the shooter wanted to do.

I doubt "expense" was a primary factor here.