Outrage on the Web over NY Post photo capturing subway death

Started by jimmy olsen, December 05, 2012, 12:31:25 AM

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Syt

There were three incidents on Vienna's U6 line recently.

1: a guy corners a girl in an otherwise empty car and chokes/rapes her for a few stops, and flees when other passengers get on the train. He was apprehended the next day. Police say he's no stranger to them.

2: a guy follows women out of the U6, rapes them, steals their money and cell phone, so they can't alert anyone. He's been apprehended shortly after police released photos of him from subway surveillance cameras.

3: two young men are harassing a girl verbally. A guy tells them to stop. They ignore him. The guy's wife tells them to get off the train and calls them rapists (in reference to #1). They take umbrage to that and beat up the wife who has to be hospitalized.
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Caliga

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Syt

The U6, running along the not so nice Gürtel for much of its track, has a bit of a reputation of being unpleasant. Subways in Vienna are normally fine to use, though, esp. in the inner city.
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Caliga

Because there's not a specific subway line for winners like myself, getting on a subway means you have to stand in close proximity to poors.  No thanks. :(
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Syt

Quote from: Caliga on December 29, 2012, 09:01:52 AM
Because there's not a specific subway line for winners like myself, getting on a subway means you have to stand in close proximity to poors.  No thanks. :(

I thought you liked slumming, Mr Gas Station Junk Food.
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—Stephen Jay Gould

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CountDeMoney

I always liked taking the train to work; could be a little hectic in the morning if it was raining, but I appreciated the down time coming home, a chance to decompress without having to deal with the stress of traffic going home.

Zanza

Quote from: Caliga on December 29, 2012, 09:01:52 AM
Because there's not a specific subway line for winners like myself, getting on a subway means you have to stand in close proximity to poors.  No thanks. :(
Do they even have subways in Hicksville?

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Caliga

Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 29, 2012, 09:14:13 AM
I always liked taking the train to work; could be a little hectic in the morning if it was raining, but I appreciated the down time coming home, a chance to decompress without having to deal with the stress of traffic going home.
I agree.  Commuter rail >>>>>>>>>> subways.
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katmai

Use to take both from Deleware co into center city for work.
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Josquius

Subways :wub:
Any modern city that wants to be worthy of the name needs a decent rail system.

As for helping the guy who fell on the rails- yes, would be good. But there was a famous incident in japan a few years ago where two guys died trying to help someone who fell on the rails. One of them was a South Korean student and it became quite a big deal over there, they even made a film about his life.
Though the photographer should of course be shot out of a cannon.
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Phillip V

Quote from: Phillip V on December 29, 2012, 04:00:25 AM
Woman Sought After 2nd Fatal Shove Onto Subway Tracks This Month

This time, an Indian-American by a Hispanic woman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/29/nyregion/man-pushed-to-his-death-under-train-in-queens.html

Woman being charged with murder as a hate crime. The guy was an Indian immigrant who spent years scrimping together money to recently open his own one-man printing shop; lived in a cramped apartment with three other immigrant men. American Dream ended. :(


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DontSayBanana

Quote from: Phillip V on December 29, 2012, 04:50:46 PM
Woman being charged with murder as a hate crime. The guy was an Indian immigrant who spent years scrimping together money to recently open his own one-man printing shop; lived in a cramped apartment with three other immigrant men. American Dream ended. :(

Being charged?  Caught her already?
Experience bij!

sbr

Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 30, 2012, 12:09:27 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on December 29, 2012, 04:50:46 PM
Woman being charged with murder as a hate crime. The guy was an Indian immigrant who spent years scrimping together money to recently open his own one-man printing shop; lived in a cramped apartment with three other immigrant men. American Dream ended. :(

Being charged?  Caught her already?

Yep.  http://news.yahoo.com/woman-charged-murder-ny-subway-shove-death-223404308.html

QuoteNEW YORK (AP) — A woman who told police she shoved a man to his death off a subway platform into the path of a train because she has hated Muslims since Sept. 11 and thought he was one was charged Saturday with murder as a hate crime, prosecutors said.
Erika Menendez was charged in the death of Sunando Sen, who was crushed by a 7 train in Queens on Thursday night, the second time this month a commuter has died in such a nightmarish fashion.
Menendez, 31, was awaiting arraignment on the charge Saturday evening, Queens District Attorney Richard A. Brown said. She could face 25 years to life in prison if convicted. She was in custody and couldn't be reached for comment, and it was unclear if she had an attorney.
Menendez, who was arrested after a tip by a passer-by who saw her on a street and thought she looked like the woman in a surveillance video released by police, admitted shoving Sen, who was pushed from behind, authorities said.
"I pushed a Muslim off the train tracks because I hate Hindus and Muslims ever since 2001 when they put down the twin towers I've been beating them up," Menendez told police, according to the district attorney's office.
Sen was from India, but police said it was unclear if he was Muslim, Hindu or of some other faith. The 46-year-old lived in Queens and ran a printing shop. He was shoved from an elevated platform on the 7 train line, which connects Manhattan and Queens. Witnesses said a muttering woman rose from her seat on a platform bench and pushed him on the tracks as a train entered the station and then ran off.
The two had never met before, authorities said, and witnesses told police they hadn't interacted on the platform.
Police released a sketch and security camera video showing a woman running from the station where Sen was killed.
Menendez was arrested by police earlier Saturday after a passer-by on a Brooklyn street spotted her and called 911. Police responded, confirmed her identity and took her into custody, where she made statements implicating herself in the crime, police spokesman Paul Browne said.
The district attorney said such hateful remarks about Muslims and Hindus could not be tolerated.
"The defendant is accused of committing what is every subway commuter's worst nightmare," he said.
On Dec. 3, another man was pushed to his death in a Times Square subway station. A photo of the man clinging to the edge of the platform a split second before he was struck by a train was published on the front page of the New York Post, causing an uproar about whether the photographer, who was catching a train, or anyone else should have tried to help him.
A homeless man was arrested and charged with murder in that case. He claimed he acted in self-defense and is awaiting trial.
It's unclear whether anyone tried — or could have tried — to help Sen on Thursday.
Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Friday urged residents to keep Sen's death in perspective as he touted new historic lows in the city's annual homicide and shooting totals.
"It's a very tragic case, but what we want to focus on today is the overall safety in New York," Bloomberg told reporters following a police academy graduation.
But commuters still expressed concern over subway safety and shock about the arrest of Menendez on a hate crime charge.
"For someone to do something like that ... that's not the way we are made," said David Green, who was waiting for a train in Manhattan. "She needs help."
Green said he caught himself leaning over the subway platform's edge and realized maybe he shouldn't do that.
"It does make you more conscious," he said of the deaths.
Such subway deaths are rare, but other high-profile cases include the 1999 fatal shoving of aspiring screenwriter Kendra Webdale by a former psychiatric patient. That case led to a state law allowing for more supervision of mentally ill people living outside institutions.


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