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Started by Tamas, May 15, 2009, 10:31:20 AM

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Razgovory

Quote from: Berkut on March 30, 2010, 09:57:46 AM
Just play the South and you will find the game is awesome.

Why is that?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Berkut

Quote from: Razgovory on March 30, 2010, 09:58:45 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 30, 2010, 09:57:46 AM
Just play the South and you will find the game is awesome.

Why is that?

It is a ACW game - they all suffer from Southern fanboi-ism, and the South is over-powered so that the game will be "interesting". This one is no different.
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Ed Anger

Quote from: Razgovory on March 30, 2010, 09:58:45 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 30, 2010, 09:57:46 AM
Just play the South and you will find the game is awesome.

Why is that?

When I played the South, I was able to build sizable manpower reserves (regiments & brigades not formed into divisions or corps) at Richmond and Atlanta.

While keeping the Union bottled up in DC and Loiusville.

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Lettow77

 The South pretty much cant win in competitive PBEM. To say you can bottle up the northern AI is not reflective of much other than a bad AI.

If anything, the ratings of generals were preposterous. Grant being even comperable to Lee is absurd, and they were too hard on Halleck, Mcclellan and others.
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PDH

Quote from: Lettow77 on March 30, 2010, 11:16:57 AM
If anything, the ratings of generals were preposterous. Grant being even comperable to Lee is absurd, and they were too hard on Halleck, Mcclellan and others.
You are right. Grant should be rated way higher than Lee, as he was a far greater strategist and tactician. Lee was alright in moral, though, so maybe the case should be made that he could be closer to Grant.
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Habbaku

Quote from: PDH on March 30, 2010, 11:27:11 AM
You are right. Grant should be rated way higher than Lee, as he was a far greater strategist

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grumbler

Quote from: PDH on March 30, 2010, 11:27:11 AM
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 30, 2010, 11:16:57 AM
If anything, the ratings of generals were preposterous. Grant being even comperable to Lee is absurd, and they were too hard on Halleck, Mcclellan and others.
You are right. Grant should be rated way higher than Lee, as he was a far greater strategist and tactician. Lee was alright in moral, though, so maybe the case should be made that he could be closer to Grant.
I know that this is a troll, but just want to make sure that you understand that Grant did a "Pickett's Charge" about six times, with the same result every time.  With tactics like that, who needs Lee?
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Ed Anger

Send in the Irish brigade first.
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Tamas

You american history geeks are not really better than balkantards, its just that you drool over different topics. :rolleyes:

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Quote from: Tamas on March 30, 2010, 02:00:40 PM
You american history geeks are not really better than balkantards, its just that you drool over different topics. :rolleyes:

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Razgovory

Quote from: Berkut on March 30, 2010, 10:00:51 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 30, 2010, 09:58:45 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 30, 2010, 09:57:46 AM
Just play the South and you will find the game is awesome.

Why is that?

It is a ACW game - they all suffer from Southern fanboi-ism, and the South is over-powered so that the game will be "interesting". This one is no different.

Well it is a French game.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

PDH

Quote from: grumbler on March 30, 2010, 12:15:09 PM
I know that this is a troll, but just want to make sure that you understand that Grant did a "Pickett's Charge" about six times, with the same result every time.  With tactics like that, who needs Lee?
Oh I understand, but then Lee did the same thing over and over too. I believe he lost a higher percentage of troops - he was quite the butcher as well.
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Berkut

And to be fair, one can argue that Grant actually had the troops to expend on frontal assaults - Lee did not.

Indeed, that is what made Grant so different from the other Eastern Union commanders. He didn't run his ass back to Washington every time he lost a fight. He understood what Lincoln said about the Union army after...what was it, Chancellorsville? Paraphrasing, after the Union "lost" a battle, he said something like "Still, if we could "lose" three more fights like this, we will have won the war...".
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Martim Silva

Quote from: PDH
You are right. Grant should be rated way higher than Lee, as he was a far greater strategist and tactician. Lee was alright in moral, though, so maybe the case should be made that he could be closer to Grant.

I thought that it was actually Sherman who was the better strategist, suggesting his march to the sea. His letters to Grant seem to indicate a very sharp person trying to convice someone he believes to be less able to grasp the whole of the situation.