So what's up with the Koch brothers (watching the Newsroom)

[Neil]

Also is the Newsroom as bad as it seems?

I think it depends a lot on how much you like Sorkin's TV work.  Emily Mortimer seems to have problem with Sorkin's rapid-fire style and the naivete and stupidity of some of the characters can be a bit troubling, but at least there's no character that is as unlikeable as the female lead on Studio 60.  It's not Sorkin's finest hour, but it's better than the sixth season of the West Wing.

I also feel some identification with the protagonist, as we're both Nixonian conservatives that have been left behind by movement conservatives devoted to fighting a lost culture war.

[mongers]

I find it ironic that Marty has so little knowledge of so many Big Kochs.

[Admiral Yi]

I find it ironic that Marty has so little knowledge of so many Big Kochs.

Sorry to piss on your parade, but it's pronounced Coke.

[DGuller]

Apparently, they are super-rich libertarians who (mistakenly) think they can control the right-wing mob for their own benefit.

Worked just fine so far.  They've managed to steer the public debate to the point where the question is how much the ri.., err, the job creators should be allowed to fuck the poor and the middle class, not whether it should be done at all.

[Ideologue]

I find it ironic that Marty has so little knowledge of so many Big Kochs.

Sorry to piss on your parade, but it's pronounced Coke.

I thought it was pronounced so as to rhyme with "crotch."  That's how I've always heard it said.

[Martinus]

Also is the Newsroom as bad as it seems?

I don't know. It's the first "normal" (i.e. not fantasy/scifi) show I have liked in a long time (I was utterly bored by Madmen for example and couldn't get into The Wire). I think it may be because characters are actually likable.

[jimmy olsen]

I find it ironic that Marty has so little knowledge of so many Big Kochs.

Sorry to piss on your parade, but it's pronounced Coke.

I thought it was pronounced so as to rhyme with "crotch."  That's how I've always heard it said.

Same here

[Zanza]

Oh, and I don't think you qualify as "rich man" if your finger is not in your country's politics.

You think there is a "rich man" that has less influence than a poor?

Probably not. But that's completely unrelated to the question whether one can be a rich man without having "your fingers in your country's politics".

[Admiral Yi]

I thought it was pronounced so as to rhyme with "crotch."  That's how I've always heard it said.

The Economist reported that Moveon.org was protesting at a Romney fundraiser in the Hamptons with a plane dragging a banner that said "Romney has a Koch habit."  The Economist agreed that it's pronounced Coke.

Hard to argue with both George Soros and The Economist.

[Tamas]

I am sorry, but pronouncing it like "Koch" with the "ch" sounding like "h" in, say, "holster", make the name more jew-sounding, so I am pretty sure most people pronounce it like that

[Sheilbh]

I am sorry, but pronouncing it like "Koch" with the "ch" sounding like "h" in, say, "holster", make the name more jew-sounding, so I am pretty sure most people pronounce it like that

First of all

Secondly the problems how you pronounce the 'o': cock or coke.  I think the 'ch' pronunciations would be either like a 'k' or like a Scottish 'ch' (like 'loch').  I think the latter is pretty rare in the US so would probably be a bit pretentious so it would just be a 'k'.

[Martinus]

Both the Newsroom and Wikipedia pronounce it similar to "coke".

[Martinus]

I am sorry, but pronouncing it like "Koch" with the "ch" sounding like "h" in, say, "holster", make the name more jew-sounding, so I am pretty sure most people pronounce it like that

That's a rather interesting theory - that the proper pronounciation of a word is determined by how most people pronounce it. By this approach "sorry" is pronounced "solly".

[Monoriu]

How do the Kochs pronounce their own name?  That should be the correct pronounciation. 

[The Brain]

How do the Kochs pronounce their own name?  That should be the correct pronounciation.

"Pronounciation"?