NCAA Football '12-13

[Ed Anger]

Went to the game with my goddaughter. Since she is graduating next month, I thought it was appropriate she went one time with her godfather. Got to see Tressel and his '02 team honored and saw Michigan defeated.

It was a good day to be a dad.   

[CountDeMoney]

Florida-Florida State was like a typical college date rape at one of those schools:  starts off slowly, tentatively...and then, later in the evening, a furious flurry, followed by the victim looking around, disorientated and lost at the severity of the penetration.

[CountDeMoney]

Got to see Tressel and his '02 team honored and saw Michigan defeated.

Interesting how he's the same asshole that put them in the boat they're in.  But hey.

[Valmy]

Well season over.  I expect Mack to step down at the end of the season, he has looked tired and beaten all year and sure as heck did in that post-game.  But my track record as Nostradamus is not that great to be fair.

I hope you're right.

He's not going anywhere.  You watch.

He won't be fired, and I really doubt that he'll resign.

Well yeah he certainly won't be fired.  I mean if he comes back he comes back.  I just do not understand why.  His team is clearly not going anywhere, they do not play hard for him, and he looks so old and tired and miserable.  The guy is going to be a god and a legend in this town forever, his wife has millions of dollars so he doesn't need the money.  I just do not understand why he is doing this to himself.  Masochism I guess.

[sbr]

I just saw that WSU won the Crapple Cup.    stupid Huskies.

Thanks alot asshole.

And they blew an 18 point lead in the 4th quarter?!?   

Sorry.

[katmai]

And they blew an 18 point lead in the 4th quarter?!?   

Sorry.

It was disgusting to watch, they were called for like 18 penalties in the game.

[PDH]

Thankfully the Wyoming season is over.  4-8, with at least 4 of those losses coming in games where the QB was injured - each by less than a touchdown.

Oh well, we fans learned the Wyoming coach can drop F-Bombs, the Air Force Academy is a bunch of cheating bastards, and that having the last home game on November 24th in Laramie is a bad idea.

[Valmy]

All things considered 4-8 is not that bad for a nuclear meltdown of a season.  Is it true that BYU, Boise State, and San Diego State are all crawling back to the MWC?

I am disappointed by the lack of CdM gloating over the ND win.  Maybe he is having a hard time with the realization he has to choose between them and his beloved SEC.

[jimmy olsen]

I'd gloat, but then I'd be punished.

[CountDeMoney]

I am disappointed by the lack of CdM gloating over the ND win.  Maybe he is having a hard time with the realization he has to choose between them and his beloved SEC.

I wish not to jinx things.  I know you all know what happened, so there's no need.  A Team of Destiny is still a Team of Destiny, fanbois or no.

And yes, Timmay, you would be punished.  Actually, I'm thinking about banning you until January 8th anyway.

[PDH]

All things considered 4-8 is not that bad for a nuclear meltdown of a season.  Is it true that BYU, Boise State, and San Diego State are all crawling back to the MWC?

The word is that if the Big East continues to bleed off teams then the reason SDSU and BSU went there (the TV contract) will be so small they have a contractual out.  BYU is out in the cold for big time bowl games (the Mountain West is at least in the Gang of 5).  Who knows, it all depends on if Louisville and UConn flee the Titanic.

[OttoVonBismarck]

I do kind of wonder now why Missouri was spurned, I can't imagine anyone knows exactly what Delany's thoughts are but it seems like with picking up Rutgers and Maryland he had the following thoughts:

1. Pickups in areas contiguous to where the Big 10 already is (I guess limiting Big 12 or Pac 12 style geographic spread)
2. Pickups in areas with massive media markets (Washington D.C., Baltimore, NYC)
3. Schools "academically respectable" (Both Rutgers and Maryland are, and are in the AAU which mattered pre-Nebraska and may still matter to the Big 10)

Missouri meets all of those criteria, so my only guess is that maybe Delany had changed his thinking from back then to now, and is now basically concerned only with getting a huge contract for the B1G Network (huge being substantially bigger than what it is now, and it is already without peer money wise.)

What's important is football quality apparently simply didn't matter, and from what I can tell it hasn't really mattered to most of the conferences in this latest era of conference restructuring. That's one reason I'm kinda put off by all of it, it's just about stacking "potential TV viewers" and it still seems like it's based on a ultimately dying cable TV business model in which providers like ESPN make money by charging a per-subscriber fee to the cable companies thus making money regardless of how many people actually watch...if cable TV goes the way of the dodo it'll be more ad hoc individual internet based subscriptions and ESPN will actually need to care more about a quality product I would think.

If the B1G wants to go to 16 I was thinking not really very many schools meet the three criteria that brought in Rutgers and Maryland. You have Pittsburgh, but the media market thing for Pittsburgh isn't as true as it is for Rutgers/Maryland (D.C. + Baltimore, and NYC way > than Pittsburgh) but everything else about the 'burgh fits. Boston College has the huge media market, but unlike Pitt doesn't have AAU membership (it isn't an academic "dog" though), and it would technically not be contiguous to extant B1G area.

UVA has the academics, but doesn't add any real media market of true value since you already get NoVa and D.C. with Maryland.

Syracuse has the academics (although resigned from AAU in 2011 after realizing they wouldn't meet the criteria any longer) and is geographically in a state bordering current B1G area, but it is upstate New York so no real media market.

I've heard some people speculate on schools like Duke and UNC, but I don't see either of them going to a conference they can't run, and the B1G for all its faults isn't willing to let anyone run the league as a fiefdom like the Carolina schools run ACC or Texas runs the Big XII. Plus, the geography doesn't make sense.

[dps]

I do kind of wonder now why Missouri was spurned, I can't imagine anyone knows exactly what Delany's thoughts are but it seems like with picking up Rutgers and Maryland he had the following thoughts:

1. Pickups in areas contiguous to where the Big 10 already is (I guess limiting Big 12 or Pac 12 style geographic spread)
2. Pickups in areas with massive media markets (Washington D.C., Baltimore, NYC)
3. Schools "academically respectable" (Both Rutgers and Maryland are, and are in the AAU which mattered pre-Nebraska and may still matter to the Big 10)

Missouri meets all of those criteria, so my only guess is that maybe Delany had changed his thinking from back then to now, and is now basically concerned only with getting a huge contract for the B1G Network (huge being substantially bigger than what it is now, and it is already without peer money wise.)

What's important is football quality apparently simply didn't matter, and from what I can tell it hasn't really mattered to most of the conferences in this latest era of conference restructuring. That's one reason I'm kinda put off by all of it, it's just about stacking "potential TV viewers" and it still seems like it's based on a ultimately dying cable TV business model in which providers like ESPN make money by charging a per-subscriber fee to the cable companies thus making money regardless of how many people actually watch...if cable TV goes the way of the dodo it'll be more ad hoc individual internet based subscriptions and ESPN will actually need to care more about a quality product I would think.

If the B1G wants to go to 16 I was thinking not really very many schools meet the three criteria that brought in Rutgers and Maryland. You have Pittsburgh, but the media market thing for Pittsburgh isn't as true as it is for Rutgers/Maryland (D.C. + Baltimore, and NYC way > than Pittsburgh) but everything else about the 'burgh fits. Boston College has the huge media market, but unlike Pitt doesn't have AAU membership (it isn't an academic "dog" though), and it would technically not be contiguous to extant B1G area.

UVA has the academics, but doesn't add any real media market of true value since you already get NoVa and D.C. with Maryland.

Syracuse has the academics (although resigned from AAU in 2011 after realizing they wouldn't meet the criteria any longer) and is geographically in a state bordering current B1G area, but it is upstate New York so no real media market.

I've heard some people speculate on schools like Duke and UNC, but I don't see either of them going to a conference they can't run, and the B1G for all its faults isn't willing to let anyone run the league as a fiefdom like the Carolina schools run ACC or Texas runs the Big XII. Plus, the geography doesn't make sense.

Army and Navy actually kind of make sense geographically now that Rutgers and Maryland are in, and they'd be a good fit in other ways as well (the service academies aren't AAU members, but are certainly considered academically respectable at least) but don't bring any media market that Rutgers and Maryland don't theoretically give the Big 10 anyway.  Kansas is an AAU member, and would be contiguous, but as far as media markets go, it's the wrong Manhattan.

I suspect that the conference would love for the University of Chicago to start playing big-time football again and rejoin.

[CountDeMoney]

There's not just TV money in play at Maryland:

Under Armour founder and Maryland alum Kevin Plank, for example, has downplayed his involvement in the decision and denied rumors that he will pay the university's $50 million exit fee from the ACC.

That's a lot more teams to wear Under Armour alt unis at a discount.  Buy up Under Armour and dump your Adidas stock, kids.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Buy up Under Armour and dump your Adidas stock, kids.

The way Adidas has been fucking up uniforms lately, everyone should have done this already.