When will pot become a mainstream political issue?

Started by DGuller, May 08, 2012, 03:35:48 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

DGuller

I'm heavily studying for my next exam now, so obviously my thoughts start wondering about everything except the exam material.  I took a mental count of my friends, and realized that I know for a fact that half of them smoked pot with some regularity (as opposed to trying it once).  I assume that some others are as well, particularly work friends who have to be careful about disclosing certain information.

Clearly the situation reached a point where anti-pot laws erode respect for law, and not pot smoking, and it's time to draw the line on drugs somewhere else.  It seems like majority of Americans now agree.  And, yet, it seems like neither political party is on-board yet, and the feeling is that being openly pro-pot without hiding behind medical bullshit is stilll unviable.

The question is, when do you think that will change?  When will pot legalization be one of the campaign issues to be openly debated?

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

The problem is that so many advocates of pot legalization are poster children for keeping it illegal.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

DGuller

I know there were some referendums, but are there mainstream politicians who campaign openly on the issue of pot legalization?

Viking

Max Planck - Science proceeds one funeral at a time.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Martinus

Quote from: DGuller on May 08, 2012, 03:41:15 PM
I know there were some referendums, but are there mainstream politicians who campaign openly on the issue of pot legalization?

The party that considers it one of its primary goals in Poland got 15% of votes in last elections (becoming the third force in the Parliament) and the social-democrats are sympathetic, too.

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: DGuller on May 08, 2012, 03:35:48 PM
Clearly the situation reached a point where anti-pot laws erode respect for law, and not pot smoking, and it's time to draw the line on drugs somewhere else

That applies to many things beyond just pot.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Sheilbh

We've got effective decriminalisation now.  It's technically illegal but practically tolerated and more or less everywhere.  I don't think there'll be any movement for legalisation while that's the situation.  What's the point?
Let's bomb Russia!

KRonn

Quote from: derspiess on May 08, 2012, 03:38:27 PM
The problem is that so many advocates of pot legalization are poster children for keeping it illegal.

:D

Pot smokers should be put in jail!!! Oh wait, we already do that.


I almost don't care what we do with pot; legalize it or not. I'll listent to pro and con arguments on it though.

grumbler

The Human Rights Party legalized pot in Ann Arbor in the 1970s, and everything worked out okay, until their unwillingness to ensure proper garbage collection lost them their dominance on the city council.

Not sure when someone will have the guts to propose pot legalization as part of a comprehensive plan to reduce unnecessary government involvement in shit that's not really the government's concern... wait, maybe it will be soon, but I am sure that the zealots will vilify such a person based on statements they probably never made in a period long ago.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on May 08, 2012, 03:38:27 PM
The problem is that so many advocates of pot legalization are poster children for keeping it illegal.

Yup, sorta the same way PETA's message gets lost in the madness of their methodology.

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

Iormlund

This is another one of those things that make Americans seem so alien.

Here you can literally do coke in front of a police car and they will simply look the other way.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Iormlund on May 08, 2012, 05:32:16 PM
This is another one of those things that make Americans seem so alien.

Here you can literally do coke in front of a police car and they will simply look the other way.

Hell, in some police departments you can do coke on the front of a police car, and they will simply look the other way.