Trayvon Martin case: use of Stand Your Ground law or pursuit of a black teen?

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Malthus

Quote from: Valmy on April 04, 2012, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 04, 2012, 03:32:17 PM
What the boingboing article fails to mention, of course, is the cop's side of the story - that the guy attacked them with a knife and a hatchet when they responded to a call triggered by his medic alert.

Which may well be total bull - but allegedly, the incident was all caught on tape, so  presumably all will out.

Well the case is about to be presented to the Grand Jury so it seems like the authorities are on top of it.  I find it hard to believe tazers couldn't take down a 68 year old with heart problems.

Hey, he was a Marine. He laughed off their wimpy tazers and shotgun beanbags.  ;)
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derspiess

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Admiral Yi

I remember you squealing with joy about that edited Wikileaks video of the attack helicopter Speesh.

You are: BUSTED.

Razgovory

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MadImmortalMan

Why is the stand your ground thing relevant to this? Seems like it's either a justifiable homicide (self-defense) or it's a homicide.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 04, 2012, 04:44:33 PM
Why is the stand your ground thing relevant to this? Seems like it's either a justifiable homicide (self-defense) or it's a homicide.

I think Yakie's connection was the black victim thing.

derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 04:34:35 PM
Dead man who edited videos.  Such as the Shirley Sherrod thing and the Acorn video.

I'll admit that I liked the Acorn video (did Breitbart edit those??).  But tell me more about how I liked the Shirley Sherrod thing.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2012, 04:15:00 PM
I remember you squealing with joy about that edited Wikileaks video of the attack helicopter Speesh.

You are: BUSTED.

Who me?  You remember incorrectly if that's a case.  I was very critical of the whole thing.  I didn't like the editorializing, the editing, and quickly came to dislike the head guy.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on April 04, 2012, 04:47:36 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 04:34:35 PM
Dead man who edited videos.  Such as the Shirley Sherrod thing and the Acorn video.

I'll admit that I liked the Acorn video (did Breitbart edit those??).  But tell me more about how I liked the Shirley Sherrod thing.

Yes, breitbart edited them.  You linked us to breitbart more then once, so I assumed you liked what he did.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 04:50:11 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2012, 04:15:00 PM
I remember you squealing with joy about that edited Wikileaks video of the attack helicopter Speesh.

You are: BUSTED.

Who me?  You remember incorrectly if that's a case.  I was very critical of the whole thing.  I didn't like the editorializing, the editing, and quickly came to dislike the head guy.

Is your name Speesh? 

It ain't always about you, honey :rolleyes:
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 04:51:24 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 04, 2012, 04:47:36 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 04:34:35 PM
Dead man who edited videos.  Such as the Shirley Sherrod thing and the Acorn video.

I'll admit that I liked the Acorn video (did Breitbart edit those??).  But tell me more about how I liked the Shirley Sherrod thing.

Yes, breitbart edited them.  You linked us to breitbart more then once, so I assumed you liked what he did.

I don't believe he did.  IIRC it was O'Keefe.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Eddie Teach

Quote from: derspiess on April 04, 2012, 04:47:36 PM
I'll admit that I liked the Acorn video (did Breitbart edit those??).

It was hilarious seeing that pale prep school young Republican trying to act like a pimp.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 04:50:11 PM
Who me?  You remember incorrectly if that's a case.  I was very critical of the whole thing.  I didn't like the editorializing, the editing, and quickly came to dislike the head guy.

Not you, Speesh.

Breitbart edited the Sherrod video, Breitbart was a right winger, ergo Speesh, who is a right winger loves edited videos.  Therefore he loved the Wikileaks video.  He likes Michael Moore "documentaries" too.  All right wingers love them.

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2012, 04:53:54 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 04:50:11 PM
Who me?  You remember incorrectly if that's a case.  I was very critical of the whole thing.  I didn't like the editorializing, the editing, and quickly came to dislike the head guy.

Not you, Speesh.

Breitbart edited the Sherrod video, Breitbart was a right winger, ergo Speesh, who is a right winger loves edited videos.  Therefore he loved the Wikileaks video.  He likes Michael Moore "documentaries" too.  All right wingers love them.

If he enjoyed one video edited for political gain, why not another?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 04:56:13 PM
If he enjoyed one video edited for political gain, why not another?

Indeed. He enjoys all edited videos.