New X-COM game coming . . . and it's turn based strategy!

Started by Syt, January 05, 2012, 11:59:23 PM

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garbon

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jimmy olsen

Playing classic difficulty, I've completed every mission assigned but China, Japan and Egypt just bailed on us.

I just keep getting conflicting abductions on the same continents so no matter what I do I'm screwed. <_<
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Razgovory

That's sorta of the way the game goes.  Unless you finish story missions fast enough you will eventually lose.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Josquius

I think not being in a hurry to do the story is the way to go, attacks seem to increase as the story goes on. I've managed to get pretty far with nobody leaving me on my second try. Just concentrated on getting more engineers at all costs and getting satelite capacity up, if a nation panicked- launch satelite.
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Grey Fox

I've encountered my first cyberdisks.

I think I'm still shaking.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Tyr on October 26, 2012, 04:36:43 AM
I think not being in a hurry to do the story is the way to go, attacks seem to increase as the story goes on. I've managed to get pretty far with nobody leaving me on my second try. Just concentrated on getting more engineers at all costs and getting satelite capacity up, if a nation panicked- launch satelite.

Panic levels are essentially a non-standard timer.  You can slow it down with satellites but eventually you will lose enough to end the game.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Scipio

Quote from: Grey Fox on October 26, 2012, 06:37:03 AM
I've encountered my first cyberdisks.

I think I'm still shaking.
Man, Cyberdisks are fucking unnerving.  But they are really fucking dumb.
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Octavian

Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 25, 2012, 08:45:25 AM
Playing classic difficulty, I've completed every mission assigned but China, Japan and Egypt just bailed on us.

I just keep getting conflicting abductions on the same continents so no matter what I do I'm screwed. <_<

It's hardcoded to lose those three. The Chinese are sneaky bastards, the Japanese has made a deal with the aliens which will greatly expand the Japanese porn market and the Egyptians are just mad they can't mass grope your female soldiers.
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Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him.

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Mr. Grey

I was trying to drag on a game....because I was enjoying my characters and I was trying to finish the 'shoot down 40 UFO achievement.'

But even with full sat coverage, panic was slowly creeping up and I had no choice but to do the final mission, lest I start losing countries.

I'm going to cut back on my gameplay until the DLC. I'm getting nothing done around the house and it's also that time of the year when I step away from my usual genre of games and get the wwf game. This was going to be the first year I passed on it, but now it has Diamond Dallas Paige and Goldust!!! Just the thought of playing online and giving people the 'shattered dreams' over and over makes me chuckle!  :menace:
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Razgovory

Quote from: Grey Fox on October 26, 2012, 06:37:03 AM
I've encountered my first cyberdisks.

I think I'm still shaking.

You don't know fear to you meet a sectopod.  They don't play fair.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Josquius

Quote from: Razgovory on October 26, 2012, 06:53:25 AM
Quote from: Tyr on October 26, 2012, 04:36:43 AM
I think not being in a hurry to do the story is the way to go, attacks seem to increase as the story goes on. I've managed to get pretty far with nobody leaving me on my second try. Just concentrated on getting more engineers at all costs and getting satelite capacity up, if a nation panicked- launch satelite.

Panic levels are essentially a non-standard timer.  You can slow it down with satellites but eventually you will lose enough to end the game.
I dunno, I'm doing OK. I think I'm approaching the end and with one mission I had a while ago I had all my panic levels reset.
Missions don't seem to coem in nations with satellites and ships can be shot down in those.
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Martim Silva

Found this interview with the creator of the game:

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/10/06/xcom-s-classic-ironman-mode-is-an-even-match-for-its-creator.aspx

I wanted normal to be a game where people didn't have to worry about the strategy layer. I felt like if you wanted to mess around there, the strategy area was like a fun area but you got a lot of things for free, like the Officer Training School was already built and you get way more scientists and engineers. In normal just by building satellites you'll get all the scientists and engineers you'll ever want, then on Classic that's cut, basically, more than in half.

On Classic to be successful you have to worry about the strategy layer. It's much harder if you're playing Ironman, or especially Classic Ironman, then your SHIVs become almost essential.... When you're playing on a harder difficulty level losing somebody who is an experienced soldier is actually – the blow is that you're going to have to move forward with rookies. (...)

Ironman ended up being the bridge between the difficulty levels, so normal is easy for a strategy guy; pretty straightforward once you learn the mechanics. Classic is challenging even if you know how to play, but normal Ironman is in between those two and I didn't expect that. (...)

I can't play normal, I have to play Classic. It's just more fun to get back from combat and have all these new worries (...)

Casey our lead programmer just lost on Classic. If I'm playing Classic Iron Man I definitely lose easily as much as I win just because if I'm not paying attention and I lose a good soldier or two early then I know I'm going to have a really hard time. Obviously that makes us happy making sure people can lose on Classic. It's interesting, Ironman kind of bridges the gap because Impossible is truly impossible. (...)

Classic Ironman is what I consider to be the best form of the game. (...)

Razgovory

Started playing again a few days ago, and beat it on Ironman-normal.  The last battle was rough.  When three of my squad got mind controlled I thought I was pretty fucked.  I was down to my last action, which was to use that Rift thingy.  It was sufficient enough to kill the big baddy.  I fucking cheered at that point.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Scipio

Normal Ironman is a lot of fun, but I'm going to classic next time around.  My squad for the alien base assault are all colonels: two snipers, two assault, one heavy, and one support.  Snipers with double tap, squad sight, and Gunslinger are so money.
What I speak out of my mouth is the truth.  It burns like fire.
-Jose Canseco

There you go, giving a fuck when it ain't your turn to give a fuck.
-Every cop, The Wire

"It is always good to be known for one's Krapp."
-John Hurt