Section 5 Of Voting Rights Act Could Be Struck Down Right Before The Election

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jimmy olsen

 Interesting, would be a hell of a firestorm if that happened right before the election. :hmm:

www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2011/12/the_obama_administration_s_risky_voter_id_move_threatens_the_voting_rights_act.html

QuoteHolder's Voting Rights Gamble
The Supreme Court's voter ID showdown.

By Richard L. Hasen|Posted Friday, Dec. 30, 2011, at 1:09 PM ET

On the Friday before Christmas Day, the Department of Justice formally objected to a new South Carolina law requiring voters to produce an approved form of photo ID in order to vote. That move already has drawn cheers from the left and jeers from the right. The DoJ said South Carolina could not show that its new law would not have an adverse impact on racial minorities, who are less likely to have acceptable forms of identification.

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley denounced the DoJ decision blocking the law under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act: "It is outrageous, and we plan to look at every possible option to get this terrible, clearly political decision overturned so we can protect the integrity of our electoral process and our 10th Amendment rights." The state's attorney general vowed to fight the DoJ move in court, and thanks to an odd quirk in the law, the issue could get fast-tracked to the Supreme Court, which could well use it to strike down the Voting Rights Act provision as unconstitutional before the 2012 elections.

The current dispute has an eerie echo. More than 45 years ago, South Carolina also went to the Supreme Court to complain that Section 5 unconstitutionally intruded on its sovereignty. Under the 1965 Act, states with a history of racial discrimination like South Carolina could not make changes in its voting rules—from major changes like redistricting to changes as minor as moving a polling place across the street—without getting the permission of either the U.S. Department of Justice or a three-judge court in Washington, D.C. The state had to show the law was not enacted with the purpose, or effect, of making minority voters worse off than they already were.
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In South Carolina v. Katzenbach, the Supreme Court said the law requiring "preclearance" of voting changes, while an extreme intrusion on states' rights, was necessary because lesser measures—like federal government suits over each discriminatory voting practice—had not worked. As Chief Justice Warren explained at the time: "Even when favorable decisions have finally been obtained, some of the States affected have merely switched to discriminatory devices not covered by the federal decrees or have enacted difficult new tests designed to prolong the existing disparity between white and Negro registration... . After enduring nearly a century of systematic resistance to the Fifteenth Amendment, Congress might well decide to shift the advantage of time and inertia from the perpetrators of the evil to its victims."

That was in 1966. While much has changed since then (who would have expected South Carolina to elect an Indian-American woman governor?), what has not changed is that the same states that had to obtain preclearance in the 1960s still must do so today (though other states and parts of states were added in the 1970s). Preclearance is the reason Texas is fighting in the Supreme Court over its redistricting plans, and why Florida has not yet been able to implement tough new voting laws opposed by Democrats, the League of Women Voters, and minority groups in Florida. And while the new voter ID laws in South Carolina and Texas need DoJ approval, the new voter ID law in Wisconsin, and the likely new law in Pennsylvania can go into effect without federal approval because those states are not subject to Section 5.

Some conservatives have been pushing the argument that Section 5 is no longer constitutional, because the states subject to preclearance don't present a special danger of racial discrimination. In 2009, the Supreme Court strongly signaled that this crown jewel of the civil rights movement may no longer be constitutional because of its interference with states' rights. Chief Justice John Roberts was especially vocal at oral argument in the case, questioning whether Section 5 was still needed to stop racial discrimination, and why the problem with racial discrimination in voting was confined to those states subject to preclearance, asking Debo Adegbile, lawyer for the NAACP: "So is it ... your position that today southerners are more likely to discriminate than northerners?"

While many read the court's 2009 decision as an invitation for Congress to fix or update Section 5, Congress has done nothing. Meanwhile, the constitutional question has been percolating in the lower courts, and most knowledgeable observers expected the issue to get to the court in the next few years.

But it now seems pretty likely that the South Carolina case will leapfrog over those others, and ask the Supreme Court to consider the constitutional question soon, in the same term that the court is likely to decide on the constitutionality of health care legislation, Texas' new redistricting plans, and Arizona's controversial immigration measure.

While you might expect the Supreme Court to try to duck the potential for yet another blockbuster decision this term, a procedural oddity of the Voting Rights Act makes it unlikely. Most cases come up to the Supreme Court review through a petition for a writ of certiorari. The court has total discretion about whether or not to hear such cases. But a very small minority of cases—almost all of them election cases—come to the Supreme Court on a direct appeal from a three-judge court. South Carolina's expected litigation over its voter ID law will go before just such a court in Washington, D.C., with direct appeal to the Supreme Court. Unlike an ordinary denial to hear the case, a Supreme Court decision not to hear an appeal from a three-judge court is a decision on the merits, an indication that the lower court got the decision right. (That's not true with cert. denials.)

If South Carolina argues in court that it is unconstitutional to require it to submit its voter ID law for federal approval, and the three-judge court rejects that argument, it is hard to imagine the Supreme Court conservatives refusing to hear that case. And further, because this is an election-related case, it is likely to be fast-tracked like the Texas redistricting case. South Carolina is claiming it needs to use voter identification in the upcoming election to preserve the integrity of its electoral process. DoJ is blocking the state's law. This almost perfectly tees up the issue of federalism and state sovereignty.

Why did the Obama DoJ deny preclearance, knowing it could well set up this massive confrontation and potentially lead to the downfall of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act? There are both principled and political reasons. First of all, it was the right thing to do. As the DoJ letter explains, South Carolina presented no evidence that its law was necessary to prevent voter fraud, and the evidence was uncontested that minority voters were less likely to have ID Second, if the Court is going to strike down Section 5, it might be politically better for this to happen before the 2012 elections, so that Obama can run against a Supreme Court, and the possibility that a President Romney could appoint a young version of Justice Scalia to take a retiring Justice Kennedy's seat on the court, solidifying the court's conservative majority for a generation.

It's a gamble, both legally and politically, and no one knows for sure how it will turn out. But South Carolina may fare much better before the Roberts court this spring than it did before the Warren court in 1966.

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Grinning_Colossus

That would certainly keep North Carolina, etc. from going for Obama this time around.
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Syt

How do voters normally identify themselves in the U.S. (to avoid anyone voting twice or in multiple districts, that you're eligible to vote etc)?
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Grinning_Colossus

First you have to register, and that puts you on a voter list within a certain district. Then on election day you tell a sweet old lady your name and she points you to the booth.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Syt on January 04, 2012, 06:52:13 AM
How do voters normally identify themselves in the U.S. (to avoid anyone voting twice or in multiple districts, that you're eligible to vote etc)?

In Maryland, your voter registration card works.  Has your name and registered address on it.  They check that against the voter registration rolls.  It matches, and shows you haven't already voted that day, you're in.  If you don't have that or a driver's license or state issued ID, you can use your paycheck, BGE bill, phone bill, tax assessment bill or anything the government has mailed to you.  It's got to have your name and address of record on it.  I've seen people in the city bring their water bill as ID.

The only time you're asked for identification is if you've never voted before or it's your first time.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on January 04, 2012, 06:56:25 AM
First you have to register, and that puts you on a voter list within a certain district. Then on election day you tell a sweet old lady your name and she points you to the booth.

lol, yeah that too.

But never fuck with the volunteer seniors on election day.  You will die in blue-haired fury.

Syt

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 04, 2012, 07:02:54 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 04, 2012, 06:52:13 AM
How do voters normally identify themselves in the U.S. (to avoid anyone voting twice or in multiple districts, that you're eligible to vote etc)?

In Maryland, your voter registration card works.  Has your name and registered address on it.  They check that against the voter registration rolls.  It matches, and shows you haven't already voted that day, you're in.  If you don't have that or a driver's license or state issued ID, you can use your paycheck, BGE bill, phone bill, tax assessment bill or anything the government has mailed to you.  It's got to have your name and address of record on it.  I've seen people in the city bring their water bill as ID.

The only time you're asked for identification is if you've never voted before or it's your first time.

Ok, thanks!
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Admiral Yi

The real "proof" part Syt is when you fill out a little attestation form before voting.  When you sign that you promise you are in fact who you claim you are, and that you're aware of the possible penalties for fraud.

Syt

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 04, 2012, 08:30:31 AM
The real "proof" part Syt is when you fill out a little attestation form before voting.  When you sign that you promise you are in fact who you claim you are, and that you're aware of the possible penalties for fraud.

Well, that sounds safe enough. :P
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on January 04, 2012, 06:56:25 AM
First you have to register, and that puts you on a voter list within a certain district. Then on election day you tell a sweet old lady your name and she points you to the booth.
Same in Rhode Island! :D
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 04, 2012, 07:03:46 AM

But never fuck with the volunteer seniors on election day.  You will die in blue-haired fury.

I dared to use the short form of my name to one of them. The Geritol fury was amusing.

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Valmy

It is so amusing how the right and the left line up on this issue entirely by how they think it will impact elections and not ideologically at all.  I mean requiring everybody to have IDs seems a tad big governmentish.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Syt on January 04, 2012, 08:33:25 AM
Well, that sounds safe enough. :P

Thank God we're not a Prussian police state!  :mad:

Think about how you would game the system though.  It's not as easy as it appears at first blush.

dps

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 04, 2012, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 04, 2012, 08:33:25 AM
Well, that sounds safe enough. :P

Thank God we're not a Prussian police state!  :mad:

Think about how you would game the system though.  It's not as easy as it appears at first blush.

Essentially, by requiring you to register beforehand, and checking your name against the voter rolls without requiring any other ID, we're saying that we don't really mind if someone else votes in your place, but we don't want you to be able to vote multiple times.

I might also point out that the size of a voting precinct enters into the discussion of how easy it would be to vote in someone else's name as well.  In Fayette County WV, for example, we had something like 89 voting precincts in a county with a population under 50,000.  Here in Wayne County NC, OTOH, we only have about a dozen voting precincts in a county with a population over 150,000.  Given that not everyone is elegilbe or registered to vote, I suspect that there are no voting precincts in WV with over 1000 voters, and the average size of a precinct is probably about 300-400 voters;  but in North Carolina it might be 10 times that.  In other words, in WV, the poll workers are most likely going to know who you are before you give them your name, but in NC they may very well have never seen you before.  Obviously, that would make it much easier to vote fraudulently in NC. 

That said, last election, the poll workers here just took my word for it that I was who I said I was, even though none of them knew me and I was voting in NC for the first time.


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Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 04, 2012, 08:30:31 AM
The real "proof" part Syt is when you fill out a little attestation form before voting.  When you sign that you promise you are in fact who you claim you are, and that you're aware of the possible penalties for fraud.

Nothing like that in Virginia.  You tell 'em who you are and what your address is, and they ask for ID.  You produce a driver's license, military ID, or piece of official mail with name and address, they check you off the list, and you go vote.  No paperwork for the voter at all, unless he/she opts for a paper ballot.
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