Obama demands China follow the same rules as everyone else

Started by jimmy olsen, November 14, 2011, 09:56:39 AM

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jimmy olsen

Big words, but will there by any consequences? It seems unlikely.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45283979/ns/politics-white_house/#.TsEp03IydFE
QuoteObama to China: Behave like 'grown up' economy
At end of APEC conference, president demands that biggest US creditor play by 'same rules as everyone else'

msnbc.com news services
updated 11/14/2011 5:48:13 AM ET

HONOLULU — President Barack Obama served notice on Sunday that the United States was fed up with China's trade and currency practices as he turned up the heat on America's biggest economic rival.

"Enough's enough," Obama said bluntly at a closing news conference of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit where he scored a significant breakthrough in his push to create a pan-Pacific free trade zone and promote green technologies.

Using some of his toughest language yet against China, Obama, a day after face-to-face talks with President Hu Jintao, demanded that China stop "gaming" the international system and create a level playing field for U.S. and other foreign businesses.

"We're going to continue to be firm that China operate by the same rules as everyone else," Obama told reporters after hosting the 21-nation APEC summit in his native Honolulu. "We don't want them taking advantage of the United States."

Obama said China was keeping its currency value artificially low, hurting American companies and jobs. He said China, which often presents itself as a developing country, is now "grown up" and should act that way in global economic affairs.

China shot back that it refused to abide by international economic rules that it had no part in writing.

"First we have to know whose rules we are talking about," Pang Sen, a deputy director-general at China's Foreign Ministry said.

"If the rules are made collectively through agreement and China is a part of it, then China will abide by them. If rules are decided by one or even several countries, China does not have the obligation to abide by that."

Even as Obama issued the veiled threat of further punitive action against China, it was unclear how much of his tough rhetoric was political posturing aimed at economically weary U.S. voters who will decide next November whether to give him a second term.

Liberalization essential
His sharp words also contrasted with the unified front that Asia-Pacific leaders sought to present with a pledge to bolster their economies and lower trade barriers in an effort to shield against the fallout from Europe's debt crisis.

The members of APEC, which accounts for more than half of the world's economic output, said they had agreed on ways to counter "significant downside risks" to the world economy.

That followed an appeal by Obama, seeking to reassert U.S. leadership to counter China's growing influence around the Pacific Rim, for a commitment to expand trade opportunities as an antidote to Europe's fiscal woes.

International Monetary Fund chief Christine Lagarde, in Honolulu to consult with APEC leaders, said the eurozone upheaval risked sweeping the world economy into a "downward spiral" that all countries had a stake in resolving the crisis.

APEC said in a final communique: "We recognize that further trade liberalization is essential to achieving a sustainable global recovery in the aftermath of the global recession of 2008-2009."

The communique also expressed a firm resolve "to support the strong, sustained and balanced growth of the regional and global economy" — a clear reference to U.S. concerns about a huge trade deficit with China's export-driven economy, fiscal problems in developed nations and the low savings rate in the United States.

In another bow to U.S. pressure, APEC committed to reducing tariffs on environmental goods and services to 5 percent as a way to promote green technology trade, overcoming China's resistance to the idea.

Obama's public denunciation of China's policies came as he faces pressure at home, from Republican presidential contenders as well as fellow Democrats, for a tougher line on Beijing. But U.S. leverage is limited, not least because Beijing is America's largest foreign creditor.

Though Obama acknowledged a "slight improvement" in the value of China's yuan, he insisted it was not enough.

Partnership
Obama declared U.S. engagement in the Asia-Pacific region as "absolutely critical" to America's prosperity. By harnessing the potential for expanded trade with the world's fastest-growing region, Obama hopes he can create U.S. jobs to help him through a tough reelection fight in 2012.

Obama's drive toward a pan-Pacific free trade zone — the signature U.S. achievement of the summit — got a boost when Canada, Mexico and Japan said they were interested in joining talks now under way among nine countries, and they agreed to complete the detailed framework in 2012.

The Transpacific Partnership (TPP) adds momentum to Obama's pledge to double U.S. exports, made more urgent by the virtual collapse of the Doha round of trade talks. A free trade zone in the region would outstrip the market size of the European Union.

But for Japan, such a deal faces major political obstacles at home and there was little promise of immediate economic dividends as trade deals often take years to take effect.

Thomas Donohue, president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, an influential business lobbying group, expressed optimism about the partnership.

"An important step to unlocking global economic growth will be expanding trade in the Asia-Pacific, and the TPP holds this key," Donohue said. He urged APEC to move quickly in drawing up a timeline that is "comprehensive, enforceable, and makes room for new entrants."

The United Steelworkers Union also welcomed the news.

"The USW appreciates the administration's aggressive outreach on ways that the TPP could support manufacturing and create jobs in the U.S.," the labor union said in a statement.
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jimmy olsen

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Josquius

How does the US cheat exactly, out of interest?

China gaming the system...yes. They certainly do and this needs cracking down on. However....is now the right time to do it? China is the only thing keeping the world economy propped up at the moment...
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Caliga

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DGuller

Quote from: Tyr on November 14, 2011, 11:38:09 AM
China is the only thing keeping the world economy propped up at the moment...
That's debatable.  In the current situation, China's policy may be one of beggar thy neighbor kind.

Admiral Yi

If manipulating your own exchange rate is not playing by the rules, there are a number of countries in the world that are not--those with managed pegs or fixed exchange rates would qualify.  Brazil and Germany recently complained about the devaluation of the US dollar caused by QE II.

Maximus

I didn't know the queen had that kind of power in the US.