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Mystery surrounds deadly blast in Iran

Started by jimmy olsen, November 13, 2011, 11:45:30 AM

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jimmy olsen

Interesting, especially that bit about the Israeli Jericho III test. Preparing for a 1st strike? Perhaps a high altitude EMP air burst to send Iran back a hundred years.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/1113/Mystery-surrounds-deadly-blast-at-Iran-ammunition-depot
QuoteMystery surrounds deadly blast at Iran ammunition depot

Iranian authorities are downplaying Saturday's explosion, which killed 15 soldiers. They are ruling out sabotage or any connection to Iran's nuclear program.

By Scott Peterson, Staff writer / November 13, 2011

Even as funerals began on Sunday for the 15 soldiers killed, Iranian commanders sought to downplay any connection to Iran's advanced ballistic missile arsenal and its controversial nuclear program.

The explosion comes as Iran is locked in a tense standoff with the US, Israel, and the West over its nuclear program, which last week produced a surge of threats and counter-threats of military action over the release of a United Nations report that detailed what it called "credible" evidence of Iran's past work on nuclear weapons technologies.

The Fars News Agency, which is connected to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), reported on Sunday that the IRGC "strongly dismissed certain baseless reports" that the explosion was "related to nuclear tests or transport of missile warheads."

"The blast happened during the transportation of [conventional] ammunition," said the IRGC press chief General Ramazan Sharif. Some 15 soldiers had been "martyred," he said, dialing down initial estimates of 40, though some of the wounded were in critical condition.

Iranian media reports said the blast took place at an ammunition depot at an IRGC base in the village of Bidganeh, near Malard in the Northern Alborz province, some 30 miles west of Tehran. Officials ruled out sabotage.

Residents of the Iranian capital and the city of Karaj, respectively 30 miles west and seven miles north of the blast area, felt its power.

"Our windows shook," said a Karaj resident, who says she and her neighbors believed it to be thunder or an earthquake, according to a Financial Times in a report from Tehran.

"I heard in my yoga class today that it was a missile attack but we do not know if it was by the US or Israel," said another Karaj resident, called Farshid.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sought last week to convince his cabinet to back military strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities, saying that a nuclear-armed Iran would be an "existential threat" to the Jewish State.

Successive US presidents have also declared that a nuclear Iran would be "unacceptable," and left "all options" – including military action – on the table.

The Nov. 8 report by the UN International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) stated that "systematic" weapons-related work was halted in 2003, though some aspects "may" continue. It confirmed that no declared nuclear material had been diverted from civilian use.

Iran denies seeking nuclear weapons. But US lawmakers said the report amounted to a "smoking gun" and called for "crippling sanctions" against the Islamic Republic.
GOP candidates sound hawkish note

Republic presidential candidates went much further at a debate on Saturday night in South Carolina, as they tried to outdo each other with anti-Iran rhetoric.

Former Sen. Rick Santorum (R) of Pennsylvania said the US should work closely with Israel to strike Iran's nuclear facilities – as it took out Iraq's in 1981 and Syria's in 2007 – "before the next explosion we hear in Iran is a nuclear one and then the world changes."

Iran's supreme religious leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei vowed on Thursday that any attack against Iran would be met with a "strong slap and iron fists."

As Israel test-fired an intercontinental ballistic missile a week ago – the first such test since 2008 of the Jericho III, which has a range at least three times that of any target in Iran – Iranian lawmakers made clear the result if Iran were targeted.

"Iran has the capability to annihilate the Zionist regime forever, if attacked," parliamentarian Hossein Farhangi told Fars News.

That battle would extend "with maximum might and power all throughout the European and US soil, if Iran comes under attack," Seyed Hossein Naqavi, a member of parliament's security commission, told Fars News.
Speculation surrounding Iran opposition group's claims

Speculation about the reasons behind the Saturday blast was fueled by claims from an Iranian opposition group that it occurred at an IRGC missile base, and not a conventional weapons depot.

The Mojahedin-e Khalq (the MEK aka MKO) claimed that the blast at the Modarres Garrison "resulted from the explosion of IRGC missiles," according to an e-mail communication with the Associated Press from Alireza Jafarzadeh, an MEK spokesman in Washington until it the group was put on the US State Department's terrorism list.

Mr. Jafarzadeh in 2002 announced the existence of undeclared Iranian uranium enrichment facility at Natanz, using data widely believed to have come from Israel. Since the MEK was put on the US State Department's terrorist list, Jafarzadeh has been an "Iran analyst" on Fox News and lobbied in Washington to have the MEK taken off the terror list.

IN-DEPTH: The MEK's big-money push to get off US terrorist list

UN weapons inspectors say much of the data passed to it by the MEK over the last decade has proven inaccurate.

A detailed 150-page dossier on Iran's ballistic missile capabilities produced in May 2010 by the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London makes no mention of any missile-related facility at Bidganeh or Malard, nor of the "Modarres Garrison."

It does, however, describe a Sajjid Base near Karaj – north of the location of Saturday's explosion – where Iran's 19th Zolfaqar Missile Brigade reportedly deploys 125-mile range Zelzal "Earthquake" rockets. The source cited for that 2002 information, however, was the MEK.
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Siege



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Ideologue

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Quote from: Siege on November 14, 2011, 01:03:33 AM


Wow.  What pointed, current, and witty satire.

2005?  Jesus.  I should've become an editorial cartoonist.  All I need are newspapers from twenty years ago and a fucking photocopier.

Quote from: OlsenPerhaps a high altitude EMP air burst to send Iran back a hundred years.

Yeah.  I'm sure that's it.
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Siege



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Siege



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Siege

"What the best in life?
To crush your enemies,
Drive them before you,
and hear the lamentations of their women."


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Siege

 :lol:



He is not even aiming.
But it looks awesome!!!!!!!1111


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Siege



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Tamas


Siege



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


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jimmy olsen

Getting back on topic, the Mossad has been linked to the blast.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/14/israel-mossad-iran-blast

Quote
Israeli secret service the Mossad linked to Iran military blast

Israeli media report claims the Mossad was behind 'huge blast' at Bid Ganeh base that killed leading Iranian missile researcher

    Phoebe Greenwood in Tel Aviv
    guardian.co.uk, Monday 14 November 2011 08.20 EST
    Article history

A series of news reports linking Israel's intelligence agency the Mossad to a blast at a military facility in Iran, in which 17 people were killed and a further 15 wounded, has gained widespread coverage in the Israeli media on Monday.

While Iranian officials insist the explosion at the Bid Ganeh base was accidental, caused by the movement of ammunition, claims from anonymous western and Israeli officials that Saturday's blast was a covert Israeli operation have gained momentum.

Leading Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot picked up a post by US blogger Richard Silverstein claiming the Mossad had teamed up with Iranian militant group Mujahideen e-Khalq (MEK) to execute the alleged attack. MEK denies involvement in the attack.

Leftwing broadsheet Ha'aretz also led with reports that a western intelligence source quoted in Time magazine had claimed the Mossad carried out the attack in an attempt to stall Iran's development of a nuclear weapon. The official is said to have warned: "There are more bullets in the magazine."

The blast at the base, which is reported to have been a storage facility for long-range missiles, was so powerful that it was said to have been felt 30 miles away in the capital, Tehran.

Among those killed was Major General Hassan Moghaddam, the Revolutionary Guard Commander charged with "ensuring self-sufficiency" in armaments, and described by Iranian media as a pioneer in Iranian missile development.

Israel's defence minister, Ehud Barak, responded to news of Moghaddam's death by saying: "May there be more like it."

Prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu's office refused to comment on growing speculation of the Mossad's involvement. Ilan Mizrahi, former head of the national security council and former deputy head of the Mossad, also would not be drawn into substantiating the claims: "I have no idea whether this blast was accidental or whether it was sabotage. But I will say God bless those who were behind it, because the free world should be doing its best to prevent Iran from achieving nuclear military capability."

A recent International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report, based on the intelligence of 10 governments, presented images, letters and diagrams that suggested Iran was secretly working on nuclear weaponry.

Both the US and France have offered close co-operation with Israel, threatening increased sanctions unless Iran responds with transparency to the nuclear watchdog report. Earlier this month, the Knesset debated the bombing of Iran to prevent further nuclear development, with Netanyahu and Barak said to supporting military strikes.

"There is nothing in this latest IAEA report that Israel hasn't known for a long time. Their arsenal of long-range missiles is also too often overlooked. I believe a military strike is an option that should be put clearly on the table," Mizrahi said. "Something should be done to stop Iran. I think in the end [Israel] will stand alone."

Iran's envoy to the IAEA says any nuclear development is for peaceful means and that the material evidence against has been fabricated by the US.

Israel has been linked to several previous incidents in Iran similar to Saturday's explosion, including an explosion at a Shahab facility in south-western Iran in 2010 and a bomb attack earlier that year in Tehran, in which Iranian physicist Masoud Ali Mohammadi was killed.

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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PJL

I don't understand though. If it was done by Mossad, then why aren't the Iranians screaming of a Zionist conspiracy behind it then????  Even if it isn't them, then I'm curious they're not doing it anyway. Unless it's something REALLY important that's been blown up. The incident is defintely reminiscent of the Syrian operation that Israel did a few years back, which the Syrians also covered up.