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Started by Razgovory, October 25, 2011, 07:05:37 PM

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Razgovory

QuoteVietnam's rare Javan rhinoceros was declared extinct in that area after poachers killed the last remaining animal in the country for its horns, the World Wildlife Fund said.

"Vietnam must see this loss as another warning sign of its looming wave of species extinctions," Dr. Barney Long, WWF's Asian species expert, said in a statement. "The single most important action that is needed to save remaining threatened species like tigers and elephants is protection."

The country had been struggling to keep the population alive amid widespread poaching that the WWF said was the cause of many Asian rhino species being brought to the "brink of extinction."

The WWF said people in certain parts of Asia believe the horns, when ground down and dissolved in boiling water, help treat typhoid fever or even cancer, the WWF said, noting that there has been no scientific proof of that.

The group said trying to bring the species back into the area won't work.

"Reintroduction of the rhinoceros to Vietnam is not economically or practically feasible," WWF's Asian Elephant and Rhino Program Coordinator Dr. Christy Williams said.  "It is gone from Vietnam forever."

So now, the Javan rhino only exists in one area in the world, according to the WWF.

The group reported that there is one population of less than 50 animals in the Ujung Kulon National Park in Java, Indonesia. Now, workers will turn their attention there, working with anti-poaching patrols to hopefully keep the species from going extinct.

"For the Javan rhino, we now have to focus entirely on one site in Indonesia where strengthened protection is needed along with fast-tracking the proposed translocation and habitat management," Long said.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/25/last-rare-rhinoceros-in-vietnam-killed-by-poacher-group-says/?hpt=hp_t2


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jimmy olsen

Sad, but not unexpected. :cry:

I thought the Javan rhino was already extinct.

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Habbaku

How can the animal be declared extinct if there are, in fact, still "less than 50 animals in the Ujung Kulon National Park in Java, Indonesia" ?
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The Brain

Quote from: Habbaku on October 25, 2011, 07:53:35 PM
How can the animal be declared extinct if there are, in fact, still "less than 50 animals in the Ujung Kulon National Park in Java, Indonesia" ?

Because Indonesia isn't Vietnam, in spite of domino theory?
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Habbaku

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Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Habbaku on October 25, 2011, 07:53:35 PM
How can the animal be declared extinct if there are, in fact, still "less than 50 animals in the Ujung Kulon National Park in Java, Indonesia" ?
NOt enough to maintain a population perhaps? As Marty would say, not enough breeders.
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jimmy olsen

Time to harvest DNA, eggs and sperm for future cloners and artifical wombs, etc.
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garbon

Quote from: Habbaku on October 25, 2011, 07:53:35 PM
How can the animal be declared extinct if there are, in fact, still "less than 50 animals in the Ujung Kulon National Park in Java, Indonesia" ?

Perhaps you need training in reading comprehension?
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 25, 2011, 08:12:28 PM
Time to harvest DNA, eggs and sperm for future cloners and artifical wombs, etc.
Why?
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Habbaku

Quote from: garbon on October 25, 2011, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 25, 2011, 07:53:35 PM
How can the animal be declared extinct if there are, in fact, still "less than 50 animals in the Ujung Kulon National Park in Java, Indonesia" ?

Perhaps you need training in reading comprehension?

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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Neil on October 25, 2011, 08:19:22 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 25, 2011, 08:12:28 PM
Time to harvest DNA, eggs and sperm for future cloners and artifical wombs, etc.
Why?
So the species can be revived at a later date.
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Neil

Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 25, 2011, 08:35:50 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 25, 2011, 08:19:22 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 25, 2011, 08:12:28 PM
Time to harvest DNA, eggs and sperm for future cloners and artifical wombs, etc.
Why?
So the species can be revived at a later date.
I knew that you wanted to do what, but why bother?  An unexceptional offshoot of a troubled genus isn't really worth it, and it's not like the conditions will be right to reintroduce them in the future anyways.

After humanity is extinct, it would be a much better thing to allow evolution to determine fitness on its own.
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Quote from: Habbaku on October 25, 2011, 07:53:35 PM
How can the animal be declared extinct if there are, in fact, still "less than 50 animals in the Ujung Kulon National Park in Java, Indonesia" ?

QuoteVietnam's rare Javan rhinoceros was declared extinct in that area

Not exactly well-worded, IMO, but there's your answer.  Though I thought that there hadn't been a confirmed sighting outside of Indonesia since the 1920s.

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Habbaku on October 25, 2011, 07:53:35 PM
How can the animal be declared extinct if there are, in fact, still "less than 50 animals in the Ujung Kulon National Park in Java, Indonesia" ?

Extinct in the wild.

There is a possibility that they can reintroduce it, like what was done with the wild Przewalski's Horse in Mongolia.
However, its long-term success depends on stopping idiots in East Asia from using rhino horns (and other endangered species) to attempt to cure their weak libidos and small dicks.
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