Police arrest man for child pornography after tipoff from burglars

Started by jimmy olsen, October 09, 2011, 05:19:08 AM

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Quote from: Ideologue on October 09, 2011, 02:46:19 PM
I know how to build an atomic bomb.  Well, that is, if I had the requisite nuclear engineering background I think I could figure it out.  I'd bet a coke Brain knows how or could easily learn how to build an atomic bomb.

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Quote from: Neil on October 09, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 09, 2011, 02:46:19 PM
I know how to build an atomic bomb.  Well, that is, if I had the requisite nuclear engineering background I think I could figure it out.  I'd bet a coke Brain knows how or could easily learn how to build an atomic bomb.
It's more of an electro-mechanical problem, really.

Indeed.  I mean, nuclear engineering in a general sense.  For a simple Gadget-type A-bomb, I understand that the timing and placement of the conventional explosives pose the engineering problem.  And if you can do that, it's not too hard to suss out a fusion-boosted fission device and achieve a truly destructive weapon.
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Iormlund

Quote from: Razgovory on October 09, 2011, 02:44:43 PM
What if the pictures are national secrets?  You know, espionage stuff. How to refine Uranium and build an atomic bomb?

Then you quietly make the guy vanish. And you go to jail if you fuck up and someone finds out.

Slargos

A faggot protesting the right to gawk at child porn? But I thought there was no link between paedophilia and homosexuality.  :hmm:

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Warspite on October 09, 2011, 01:30:09 PM
Something's not right here. Who the hell burgles a property for blank CDs??

My first thought as well.
OTOH I don't currently have any blank CDs and could use some...
But then again, my laptop's CD drive sucks and rarely succeeds at burning.
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Quote from: Martinus on October 09, 2011, 01:27:36 PM
Quote from: ulmont on October 09, 2011, 01:05:10 PM
In your parade of horribles, you overlook that most crimes would not be given a pass here.

Burglary is worse a crime than looking at pictures on the internet. In any society, other than our moral panic/hysterical one, this story would have not happened.
Depends on "what" pictures your looking at.  :lmfao:
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Quote from: Ideologue on October 09, 2011, 03:01:04 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 09, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 09, 2011, 02:46:19 PM
I know how to build an atomic bomb.  Well, that is, if I had the requisite nuclear engineering background I think I could figure it out.  I'd bet a coke Brain knows how or could easily learn how to build an atomic bomb.
It's more of an electro-mechanical problem, really.
Indeed.  I mean, nuclear engineering in a general sense.  For a simple Gadget-type A-bomb, I understand that the timing and placement of the conventional explosives pose the engineering problem.  And if you can do that, it's not too hard to suss out a fusion-boosted fission device and achieve a truly destructive weapon.
No, that's actually fairly difficult.  The theory is easy, but the engineering is very, very difficult.

Besides, a Gadget would still be truly destructive.
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I thought the big difficulty in making a nuclear weapon was procuring the materials, which are difficult to refine and the secrets of how to are jealously guarded.  Actually constructing the weapon is a bit easier, (though not simple.  I imagine a major University would have the expertize to pull it off).
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Ideologue

Quote from: Neil on October 09, 2011, 05:37:57 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 09, 2011, 03:01:04 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 09, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 09, 2011, 02:46:19 PM
I know how to build an atomic bomb.  Well, that is, if I had the requisite nuclear engineering background I think I could figure it out.  I'd bet a coke Brain knows how or could easily learn how to build an atomic bomb.
It's more of an electro-mechanical problem, really.
Indeed.  I mean, nuclear engineering in a general sense.  For a simple Gadget-type A-bomb, I understand that the timing and placement of the conventional explosives pose the engineering problem.  And if you can do that, it's not too hard to suss out a fusion-boosted fission device and achieve a truly destructive weapon.
No, that's actually fairly difficult.  The theory is easy, but the engineering is very, very difficult.

Besides, a Gadget would still be truly destructive.

Is it?  Huh, I always thought it was reasonably easy to make a Teller-Ulam.  (I mean, not like "make a car" easy, but compared to, say, building a modern aircraft.)
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Razgovory

I doubt it.  Even the simplest design requires lot of different experts.  The easiest design is probably a "Little Boy" type bomb that uses a gun mechanism.  Still it requires complex engineering.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Josquius

Quote from: Warspite on October 09, 2011, 01:30:09 PM
Something's not right here. Who the hell burgles a property for blank CDs??
A bunch of kids just out for fun/picking on the local weirdo.
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dps

Quote from: Ideologue on October 09, 2011, 02:37:57 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on October 09, 2011, 02:30:24 PM
I'm not really going into which one is worse. I just don't see how you can let the prosecution use this evidence at all.

Private actor.  I'd have to look it up to go into further details, although I think I remember a case where private actors kidnapped a wanted guy from Mexico and dropped him off in front of police station in the U.S., and courts were okay with his prosecution despite the fact that his arrest would have been ridiculously unlawful if performed by state actors.

The difference is, presumably, that the constitution protects people from state abuses, but not (in rare exceptions, like the 13th Amendment) private ones.  Mart ain't wrong when he says there's a danger of collusion, though.

Pretty sure that there's plenty of precedent that material illegaly obtained by a private actor can be used in prosecuting a 3rd party.  Don't see why people are acting like this is something new. 

garbon

Quote from: dps on October 09, 2011, 11:44:02 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 09, 2011, 02:37:57 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on October 09, 2011, 02:30:24 PM
I'm not really going into which one is worse. I just don't see how you can let the prosecution use this evidence at all.

Private actor.  I'd have to look it up to go into further details, although I think I remember a case where private actors kidnapped a wanted guy from Mexico and dropped him off in front of police station in the U.S., and courts were okay with his prosecution despite the fact that his arrest would have been ridiculously unlawful if performed by state actors.

The difference is, presumably, that the constitution protects people from state abuses, but not (in rare exceptions, like the 13th Amendment) private ones.  Mart ain't wrong when he says there's a danger of collusion, though.

Pretty sure that there's plenty of precedent that material illegaly obtained by a private actor can be used in prosecuting a 3rd party.  Don't see why people are acting like this is something new. 

Law & Order has had countless episodes involving it. :D
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Ideologue

Quote from: dps on October 09, 2011, 11:44:02 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 09, 2011, 02:37:57 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on October 09, 2011, 02:30:24 PM
I'm not really going into which one is worse. I just don't see how you can let the prosecution use this evidence at all.

Private actor.  I'd have to look it up to go into further details, although I think I remember a case where private actors kidnapped a wanted guy from Mexico and dropped him off in front of police station in the U.S., and courts were okay with his prosecution despite the fact that his arrest would have been ridiculously unlawful if performed by state actors.

The difference is, presumably, that the constitution protects people from state abuses, but not (in rare exceptions, like the 13th Amendment) private ones.  Mart ain't wrong when he says there's a danger of collusion, though.

Pretty sure that there's plenty of precedent that material illegaly obtained by a private actor can be used in prosecuting a 3rd party.  Don't see why people are acting like this is something new.
I believe there is, yeah.  I'd just have to look it up.  Which I won't. :P
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