Police arrest man for child pornography after tipoff from burglars

Started by jimmy olsen, October 09, 2011, 05:19:08 AM

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Martinus

Quote from: ulmont on October 09, 2011, 01:05:10 PM
In your parade of horribles, you overlook that most crimes would not be given a pass here.

Burglary is worse a crime than looking at pictures on the internet. In any society, other than our moral panic/hysterical one, this story would have not happened.

Warspite

Something's not right here. Who the hell burgles a property for blank CDs??
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garbon

Quote from: Martinus on October 09, 2011, 12:52:11 PM
A bunch of thugs beating up a guy torturing some confession out of him, and then going to the police to report that, resulting in them going free and he getting jailed?

What proof would the thugs have of the confession? :huh:
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Razgovory

I like the idea of civic minded criminals.  Like when Mobsters beat up Nazi sympathizers in the 1930's and '40's.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Warspite on October 09, 2011, 01:30:09 PM
Something's not right here. Who the hell burgles a property for blank CDs??

Vigilantes looking for child porn of course.

I did see a scene from The Chicago Code where one of the mobsters with some pull in the PD was using a box of child porn to blackmail somebody.  :hmm:
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DGuller

Quote from: Martinus on October 09, 2011, 01:27:36 PM
Quote from: ulmont on October 09, 2011, 01:05:10 PM
In your parade of horribles, you overlook that most crimes would not be given a pass here.

Burglary is worse a crime than looking at pictures on the internet. In any society, other than our moral panic/hysterical one, this story would have not happened.
For once, I have to agree with Mart.

Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on October 09, 2011, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 09, 2011, 01:27:36 PM
Quote from: ulmont on October 09, 2011, 01:05:10 PM
In your parade of horribles, you overlook that most crimes would not be given a pass here.

Burglary is worse a crime than looking at pictures on the internet. In any society, other than our moral panic/hysterical one, this story would have not happened.
For once, I have to agree with Mart.

Burglary is a victimless crime.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Martinus

Quote from: garbon on October 09, 2011, 01:36:54 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 09, 2011, 12:52:11 PM
A bunch of thugs beating up a guy torturing some confession out of him, and then going to the police to report that, resulting in them going free and he getting jailed?

What proof would the thugs have of the confession? :huh:

They could find out where the bodies are buried, for example.

Iormlund


Ideologue

Sort of don't agree.  Receiving child pornography is basically taking part in rape and sex slavery.  Burglarizing a house is taking part in theft.  One is worse than the other, as one is a crime against a person that can never be truly made whole, the other a crime against replaceable property*.  But I can see where reasonable minds could differ.

*Although violating the privacy and perception of safety of another could be argued to be a crime against the person as well.  Ho hum.
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Iormlund

I'm not really going into which one is worse. I just don't see how you can let the prosecution use this evidence at all.

Ideologue

Quote from: Iormlund on October 09, 2011, 02:30:24 PM
I'm not really going into which one is worse. I just don't see how you can let the prosecution use this evidence at all.

Private actor.  I'd have to look it up to go into further details, although I think I remember a case where private actors kidnapped a wanted guy from Mexico and dropped him off in front of police station in the U.S., and courts were okay with his prosecution despite the fact that his arrest would have been ridiculously unlawful if performed by state actors.

The difference is, presumably, that the constitution protects people from state abuses, but not (in rare exceptions, like the 13th Amendment) private ones.  Mart ain't wrong when he says there's a danger of collusion, though.
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Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on October 09, 2011, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 09, 2011, 01:27:36 PM
Quote from: ulmont on October 09, 2011, 01:05:10 PM
In your parade of horribles, you overlook that most crimes would not be given a pass here.

Burglary is worse a crime than looking at pictures on the internet. In any society, other than our moral panic/hysterical one, this story would have not happened.
For once, I have to agree with Mart.

What if the pictures are national secrets?  You know, espionage stuff. How to refine Uranium and build an atomic bomb?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

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Neil

Quote from: Ideologue on October 09, 2011, 02:46:19 PM
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It's more of an electro-mechanical problem, really.
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