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US AAA credit rating downgraded

Started by Richard Hakluyt, August 05, 2011, 07:49:28 PM

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Tonitrus

Quote from: Barrister on August 08, 2011, 01:02:48 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 08, 2011, 12:19:58 AM
Canada's doing just fine because she's hiding and hoping nobody's going to notice her.

Hey BB, is it a conflict of interest in your position to sponsor a visa applicant, by chance?

I dunno - you know anyone willing to be a live-in nanny?  Child care is expensive north of 49...

Nanny CdM?

I'm sure I've seen that movie.

Razgovory

Quote from: Barrister on August 08, 2011, 12:16:33 AM


The entire world's economy is going to hell in a handbasket.  I point out that Canada is actually doing well - and you're 'not impressed'?

I'm so sorry you're not impressed with Canada's economic performance.  But since everyone I know can find work, stay in their home, and be fairly productive, I dare say we're doing pretty well.

Yeah, well we can't all decide to become Saudi Arabia or Russia.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Monoriu

That means HK has a higher credit rating than the US  :lol:

Razgovory

It's laughable that the conservatives are claiming that the recent downgrade is unrelated to debt ceiling fight.  They knew full well what not raising the debt ceiling in a timely manner would do.  If they didn't it wouldn't make sense to use it to blackmail the president or as they say "hold President Obama accountable".  Accountable for what or to what is anyone's guess.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Cecil

Quote from: Monoriu on August 08, 2011, 03:12:05 AM
That means HK has a higher credit rating than the US  :lol:

Big whoop. So does the socialist paradise of Sweden.

Brazen

Quote from: Barrister on August 08, 2011, 01:02:48 AM
I dunno - you know anyone willing to be a live-in nanny?  Child care is expensive north of 49...
Sign me up. Though I don't actively like children, I've never knowingly shaken one.

Razgovory

Quote from: Barrister on August 08, 2011, 01:02:48 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 08, 2011, 12:19:58 AM
Canada's doing just fine because she's hiding and hoping nobody's going to notice her.

Hey BB, is it a conflict of interest in your position to sponsor a visa applicant, by chance?

I dunno - you know anyone willing to be a live-in nanny?  Child care is expensive north of 49...

I could be a nanny.  I'm actually good with children, due to my child like nature.  Actually now that I think of it, my little sis would be good for the job as well. She worked at a daycare for a while (though she is unemployed at the moment due to her living up in Wisconsin in a town of less then 300 people).
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

alfred russel

The dollar is up against the euro after the downgrade.
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Palisadoes

Quote from: alfred russel on August 08, 2011, 05:19:48 AM
The dollar is up against the euro after the downgrade.

Both are down relative to other currencies like the Swiss Franc and Japanese Yen, however. Moreover, both are suffering, though the Euro is just suffering more than the dollar.

OttoVonBismarck

There's not much for America to learn from countries with small populations and relatively small economies like Canada and Norway; those countries both can be disproportionately buoyed by relatively minor natural resource boons. I mean, the United States could find an oil field equivalent to the Albertan tar sands and it still would not meaningfully turn our economy around, our economy is so vast that it would only give us a minor bump and not come close to solving our problems.

I mean, Canada's economy is about the size of California's on a good day. If you want to look at individual U.S. States many of them have had major fiscal turnarounds in the past decade as well, but none of them have as complicated or as large a mess as the Federal government so it is intrinsically easier for them to solve their problems. Solving the fiscal problems of the United States Federal Gov't is equivalent if not greater in difficulty as the EU solving its collective problems, which as observes will note has been a very difficult process.

Tamas

Quote from: Razgovory on August 08, 2011, 03:58:09 AM
Quote from: Barrister on August 08, 2011, 01:02:48 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 08, 2011, 12:19:58 AM
Canada's doing just fine because she's hiding and hoping nobody's going to notice her.

Hey BB, is it a conflict of interest in your position to sponsor a visa applicant, by chance?

I dunno - you know anyone willing to be a live-in nanny?  Child care is expensive north of 49...

I could be a nanny.  I'm actually good with children, due to my child like nature.  Actually now that I think of it, my little sis would be good for the job as well. She worked at a daycare for a while (though she is unemployed at the moment due to her living up in Wisconsin in a town of less then 300 people).

I am ready and able to help out all able-bodied US women, via marriage for greencard :contract:

Razgovory

My sis is already married.  Although rats ass Wisconsin is pretty crappy, it's a damn sight better then goulash land.  I mean, a mysterious red sludge hasn't simply appeared and devoured towns up there.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Faeelin

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 08, 2011, 06:43:08 AM
There's not much for America to learn from countries with small populations and relatively small economies like Canada and Norway; those countries both can be disproportionately buoyed by relatively minor natural resource boons.

Mmm. Canada is small, but let's not pretend it's Norway. It's got the 9th largest economy in the world, and energy products are 2.9% of its GDP. The service sector and manufacturing together account for something like 94% of the Canadian economy.

So, perhaps there's more to it than "they got lucky thanks to Alberta tar."