Pride of Nations

[Norgy]

I think they're just on holiday.

[Ed Anger]

Are they in war with somebody? 

None that I can see. Only thing Prussia has been doing is forging Caucus Belli against its neighbors and doing a train tour on my territory.

I'm surprised the Russians haven't shown up since I have a defensive treaty with them too.

[HisMajestyBOB]

Party at Austria's house! Woooo!

[Kleves]

Tried the demo; seems unnecessarily, obnoxiously complex.

[Ed Anger]

I am provisionally raising my rating from 'I don't know about this' to 'Not bad'.

[Neil]

I've never played these AGEOD games before, but I'm starting to get interested here.  Is this one a good one to start off with?

[Tamas]

I've never played these AGEOD games before, but I'm starting to get interested here.  Is this one a good one to start off with?

No, most of all because its very unique. Warfare model is the same but here warfare is not the main thing, unlike in all the other ones.

[The Minsky Moment]

The whole idea of Prussia and the US being involved in a crisis over Samoa in 1850 is absurd, of course.  Not sure what anyone was thinking (if, indeed, they were thinking at all) when this was proposed.

The crisis of 1887-1889 involved conditions that simply could not apply in 1850.  Germany didn't even exist in 1850, and the idea that Americans would give a shit about the islands in 1850 is absurd.

That isn't the key issue for me, though.  The key issue is that the diplomatic options are so opaque that the player cannot make sensible decisions - let alone fun ones.

+1.
The crisis mechanic is terrific in theory but the implementation is very confusing and the manual does not help. (the manual generally has serious deficiencies)  Also crises arise over inappropriate things.  There should be a higher threshhold in terms of colonial penetration before one can be triggered.

The colonization mini-game also seems interesting in theory but with all the different options it isn't clear what I should be doing or which provinces I should be doing it in.  Maybe experience will make it more clear but it does seem that 30 different potential actions is a bit overkill.

Fun factor is higher than V2.  Stability OTOH is lower- had two CTDs already as opposed to zero for V2 despite all the other problems with it.

[grumbler]

  Stability OTOH is lower- had two CTDs already as opposed to zero for V2 despite all the other problems with it.

Don't alt-tab away from the game while it processes turns - there is a goood chance it won't come back.

Also, the game manuals and tutorials all say that the game automatically saves the last X turns (they disagree on how many) but this is not true on my installation (nor can i manually save in different slots, as the game will only save in the slot I chose at the start).  Did the developers abandon the automatic save feature or is it just not yet in place (if it isn't enabled in installs other than mine)?

[Warspite]

150,000 Prussians show up uninvited to the Balkan coast.

Tell me about it.

[Drakken]

Will be tempted to buy it - when the 1.02 patch becomes available in eight months time, if AGEOD's current state of the beta patches for RoP (1.03) and AACW is a good indication.

[Tamas]

  Stability OTOH is lower- had two CTDs already as opposed to zero for V2 despite all the other problems with it.

Don't alt-tab away from the game while it processes turns - there is a goood chance it won't come back.

Also, the game manuals and tutorials all say that the game automatically saves the last X turns (they disagree on how many) but this is not true on my installation (nor can i manually save in different slots, as the game will only save in the slot I chose at the start).  Did the developers abandon the automatic save feature or is it just not yet in place (if it isn't enabled in installs other than mine)?

The auto-save feature is in place. *your PoN directory*\VGN\Saves\yoursavegame. Inside that directory will be a crapload of previous saves of that game.

alt-tabbing works but in time will crash the game indeed. Like, after an hour

[szmik]

I've never played these AGEOD games before, but I'm starting to get interested here.  Is this one a good one to start off with?

I think it's much more complex than any previous game, which were basically all about warfare. But imho it's superior to Victoria 2 and it works more or less as intended right after release, with minor quirks.
I didn't try naval warfare yet.

[crazy canuck]

Wait to get this after the patch?

[Ed Anger]

150,000 Prussians show up uninvited to the Balkan coast.

Tell me about it.

ewww. So pale.