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Started by Josquius, April 04, 2011, 03:39:14 AM

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Siege

#2385
March 22, 2012, 07:56:01 PM
Why did GRRM treated Brienne so bad?
I would have liked her character if she had looked like Sansa.

Anyway, I like that the stars have diferent names below the wall and beyong the wall.
The Stallion, The Galley, The Moonmaid, The King's Crown, The Shadowcat, The Ice Dragon, The Sword of the Morning...

Can you imagine the fight between Ned Stark and Arthur Dayne?
Two dudes with huge massive humungus swords.



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"

Eddie Teach

#2386
March 22, 2012, 08:56:45 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 22, 2012, 07:56:01 PM
Why did GRRM treated Brienne so bad?
I would have liked her character if she had looked like Sansa.

If she looked like Sansa, her character wouldn't make any sense.
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Josquius

#2387
March 22, 2012, 10:14:23 PM
Yeah, that was the whole point. A realistic warrior lady rather than the typical unrealistic fantasy trope of a hottie in a chainmail bikini.
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Habbaku

#2388
March 22, 2012, 10:15:11 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 22, 2012, 07:56:01 PM
Can you imagine the fight between Ned Stark and Arthur Dayne?
Two dudes with huge massive humungus swords.

...and ultimately won by a little dude with a frog-spear.
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Siege

#2389
March 22, 2012, 10:31:51 PM
No doubt though, that Jon is Rhaegar's son, because otherwise the 3 dudes from the royal guard wouldn't have been there.
They would have been at the Trident, in which case Robert's Rebellion would have been crushed, which in turn brings to mind Rhaegar's stupidity.



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"

Siege

#2390
March 22, 2012, 10:34:24 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 22, 2012, 10:15:11 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 22, 2012, 07:56:01 PM
Can you imagine the fight between Ned Stark and Arthur Dayne?
Two dudes with huge massive humungus swords.

...and ultimately won by a little dude with a frog-spear.

I somehow doubt that a little dude with a frog spear can beat a fully armored knight of the White Guard, wielding the greatest sword ever made.
Something else happened there.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"

viper37

#2391
March 23, 2012, 02:10:18 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 22, 2012, 10:14:23 PM
Yeah, that was the whole point. A realistic warrior lady rather than the typical unrealistic fantasy trope of a hottie in a chainmail bikini.

Yeah, real life female warriors didn't look like Red Sonja.
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viper37

#2392
March 23, 2012, 02:15:23 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 22, 2012, 10:34:24 PM
I somehow doubt that a little dude with a frog spear can beat a fully armored knight of the White Guard, wielding the greatest sword ever made.
Something else happened there.

Well, The Red Viper almost won his fight against the Mountain.  Had he not been careless in the end, he would have won.  In fact, in a real battle, he would have stabbed him a couple of times, then left him to die.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

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Razgovory

#2393
March 23, 2012, 02:30:10 PM
I didn't think Oberyn intended to win.  Or at least didn't think he would have.  I thought his goal was make Clegane die in agony from poison.  Don't know what you are talking about "in a real battle".  Human beings are funny.  Sometimes one blow is enough to kill a full grown man.  Some times a person can take dozens of stab wounds and survive.  It can be hard to kill a person.  In a melee battle between two armored opponents it would be hard to tell which blows are fatal and which aren't.
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The Larch

#2394
March 23, 2012, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 23, 2012, 02:30:10 PM
I didn't think Oberyn intended to win.  Or at least didn't think he would have.  I thought his goal was make Clegane die in agony from poison.  Don't know what you are talking about "in a real battle".  Human beings are funny.  Sometimes one blow is enough to kill a full grown man.  Some times a person can take dozens of stab wounds and survive.  It can be hard to kill a person.  In a melee battle between two armored opponents it would be hard to tell which blows are fatal and which aren't.

He wanted him to confess the murder of his sister and nephews, the death in agony was icing on the cake.

Tamas

#2395
March 23, 2012, 02:42:53 PM

Martinus

#2396
March 23, 2012, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: The Larch on March 23, 2012, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 23, 2012, 02:30:10 PM
I didn't think Oberyn intended to win.  Or at least didn't think he would have.  I thought his goal was make Clegane die in agony from poison.  Don't know what you are talking about "in a real battle".  Human beings are funny.  Sometimes one blow is enough to kill a full grown man.  Some times a person can take dozens of stab wounds and survive.  It can be hard to kill a person.  In a melee battle between two armored opponents it would be hard to tell which blows are fatal and which aren't.

He wanted him to confess the murder of his sister and nephews, the death in agony was icing on the cake.

That. Plus it was a delicious deconstruction of the Inigo Montoya trope.

Viking

#2397
March 23, 2012, 08:56:37 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 23, 2012, 05:34:49 PM
That. Plus it was a delicious deconstruction of the Inigo Montoya trope.

Hello. My name is Oberyn Martell. You killed my sister. Prepare to die?
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First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Martinus

#2399
March 24, 2012, 10:55:54 AM
Quote from: Viking on March 23, 2012, 08:56:37 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 23, 2012, 05:34:49 PM
That. Plus it was a delicious deconstruction of the Inigo Montoya trope.

Hello. My name is Oberyn Martell. You killed my sister. Prepare to die?

Yeah. It gets subverted because he dies himself. :P
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