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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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clandestino

@The Larch or celedhring
During my Languish hiatus, one of the TV Shows I liked the most was Fariña (it seems it's called Cocaine Coast in English).

My question is this, the series were based in real events and I guess that most gangsters didn't like their depiction in the show (some might have liked since they look kind of cool...), but the most shocking one is Fraga.

Maybe it's just how things work over here, but such a depiction of an influential politician would be highly controversial.

What was the reaction in Galicia/PP?

Any other controversies with other characters like Garzón?

celedhring

I don't remember Fraga being in Fariña. I think the Galician president featured there is a previous one. Larch will know best.


clandestino

Quote from: celedhring on July 07, 2021, 06:01:50 AM
I don't remember Fraga being in Fariña. I think the Galician president featured there is a previous one. Larch will know best.

Was there a president before Fraga? When? During the Neolithic? :P



(after a small search it seems that he was president only since 1990, I don't know why but I thought that since his political career started in Franco times he was the president since the transition...)


The Larch

#48738
It's not meant to be Fraga but Fernández Albor, who was the regional president from 81 to 87. Fraga got the job in 1990.

Regarding controversies, the only real person who complained bitterly about his portrayal in the show was Laureano Oubiña, AFAIK. For me he was one of the most realistic performances.

If you're interested in those times, the book in which the show is based (which is a journalistic research piece, not a novel) is very good and presents many more cases on politics and drug traficking intermingling.

Quote from: clandestino on July 07, 2021, 06:06:51 AM(after a small search it seems that he was president only since 1990, I don't know why but I thought that since his political career started in Franco times he was the president since the transition...)

Nope, Fraga was actually a figure in national politics during the Transition and the 80s, he was one of the original drafters of the constitution and the founder of AP (current PP). He came to Galician politics after his time on the national spotlight was over.

clandestino

Quote from: The Larch on July 07, 2021, 06:10:58 AM
It's not meant to be Fraga but Fernández Albor, who was the regional president from 81 to 87. Fraga got the job in 1990.

I'll check him out. Any controversy then?

celedhring

Anyway, PP being in bed with criminals or being criminal themselves = shocking news!

clandestino

Quote from: celedhring on July 07, 2021, 06:12:37 AM
Anyway, PP being in bed with criminals or being criminal themselves = shocking news!

I guess, but I believe that around here anything like that that wasn't proved in a court of law would get you defamation lawsuited until the end of days...

celedhring

#48742
Quote from: clandestino on July 07, 2021, 06:18:33 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 07, 2021, 06:12:37 AM
Anyway, PP being in bed with criminals or being criminal themselves = shocking news!

I guess, but I believe that around here anything like that that wasn't proved in a court of law would get you defamation lawsuited until the end of days...

There was a defamation suit from a former mayor that was mentioned. It was ultimately tossed out. I don't recall anything else.

The Larch

Quote from: clandestino on July 07, 2021, 06:12:18 AM
Quote from: The Larch on July 07, 2021, 06:10:58 AM
It's not meant to be Fraga but Fernández Albor, who was the regional president from 81 to 87. Fraga got the job in 1990.

I'll check him out. Any controversy then?

There are tons of stories and rumours from those times about AP being in bed with the narcos, and them bankrolling the party. Many former narcos/smugglers became AP mayors in small coastal towns in the region, and almost to this day you still get stuff coming out.

The most famous episode was in 1984 when the heads of the gangs ran away to Portugal to avoid going to prison. Fernández Albor actually went down to Portugal (they were hiding in Monçao, I believe) and met the gang leaders in the hotel in which they were staying and reached a pact with them so they could return and avoid being arrested. This ended up costing him the job, as it came to light and he ended up being kicked out by a no confidence vote in the regional parlament.

The Larch

#48744
Quote from: celedhring on July 07, 2021, 06:23:34 AM
Quote from: clandestino on July 07, 2021, 06:18:33 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 07, 2021, 06:12:37 AM
Anyway, PP being in bed with criminals or being criminal themselves = shocking news!

I guess, but I believe that around here anything like that that wasn't proved in a court of law would get you defamation lawsuited until the end of days...

There was a defamation suit from a former mayor that was shown taking bribes from the narcos IIRC. I think it was ultimately tossed out.

Yeah, but that's not in the show, only in the book. It was a rather pointless case, as that former mayor ended up serving 4 years in prison for money laundering, so there was not much honour to protect there.

I once met with that mayor's son (who of course was also in local politics, although not as mayor, only as a councilman).  :ph34r:

clandestino

#48745
Thanks for the info.

Regarding the escape to Monçao that reminds me one thing about the show that always cracked me up while watching: when the narcos say that they would call a Portuguese guy to take care of someone.  :lol: Probably true, but one laughs just imagining the bloke.

The Larch

Quote from: clandestino on July 07, 2021, 06:29:19 AM
Thanks for the info.

Regarding the escape to Monçao that reminds me one thing about the show that always cracked me up while watching: when the narcos say that they would call a Portuguese guy to take care of someone.  :lol: Probably true, but one laughs just imagining the bloke.

Well, if somebody has to get his hands dirty...  :P

It's a pity they didn't do a crossover with Narcos, given that they dealt with the same topic and the characters interacted for real.

clandestino

BTW what is your opinion about the TV series? Apart from the story which we had no idea and it's entertaining, like a Narcos light, the soundtrack was great!

The Larch

#48748
Quote from: clandestino on July 07, 2021, 06:34:14 AM
BTW what is your opinion about the TV series? Apart from the story which we had no idea and it's entertaining, like a Narcos light, the soundtrack was great!

Oh, I loved it, it's really well done, and was extremely popular over here. It's a bit of a pity that only one season could be done.

The featured guys are still around, btw, keeping much lower profiles but they still pop up in the news from time to time. Sito Miñanco is involved in drug traficking in the strait of Gibraltar nowadays, for instance, although right now he's back in prison.

The soundtrack is great, yes, besides the title song by Iván Ferreiro many of the other songs are proper period songs by local bands, some of them really iconic of the 80s (Miña terra galega by Siniestro Total and Galicia Caníbal by Os Resentidos being the most famous ones). It was a pity that they didn't include this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7rRmEaHLrA

The picture from the video is from when Sito Miñanco became the president of his local football team in the late 80s (the scene appears in the show):


Josephus

Saw two and a half episodes of Domina.

Yeah, shit.
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