TV/Movies Megathread

[Josquius]

You're aware that there's an entire world outside the UK and London, right?

We were speaking about the UK :p
I can't comment on how things will be elsewhere.  Not so bad I think given its only really France which has quite the same capital drain as the UK?

[The Larch]

You're aware that there's an entire world outside the UK and London, right?

We were speaking about the UK :p
I can't comment on how things will be elsewhere.  Not so bad I think given its only really France which has quite the same capital drain as the UK?

What does capital drain have to do with football viewing?

[HVC]

Probably.
There's also the complicating factor of increased remote work and flight from London meaning more people with money are able to live closer to home and get to games more.

You're aware that there's an entire world outside the UK and London, right?

for someone so anti brexit Tyr's pretty insular

[The Larch]

Probably.
There's also the complicating factor of increased remote work and flight from London meaning more people with money are able to live closer to home and get to games more.

You're aware that there's an entire world outside the UK and London, right?

for someone so anti brexit Tyr's pretty insular

He's a walking contradiction, for someone who is pretty well travelled he's at the same time extremely insular and parochial. That's why we love him. 

[Syt]

Some people travel to reassure themselves how much better they have it at home.

[Admiral Yi]

He's a walking contradiction, for someone who is pretty well travelled he's at the same time extremely insular and parochial. That's why we love him. 

Chavs in space.  He's great.

[Josephus]

Yeah, Netflix has been sustainable the past couple years. Before that they had to take on a lot of debt to sustain their production. The issue is whether the market is big enough for so many players, since Disney is also being very aggressive. HBO is already kinda pulling back.

I guess I'm a bit scarred by the Spanish TV bubble. That coupled with the recession nearly killed the industry over here.

Netflix is the only big international player producing Spanish language content nowadays, right? I guess that the sector is safe at least for as long as they want to keep increasing their libraries.

I saw 30 Coins which is a Spanish show produced by HBO Europe

HBO's strategy has been, I think, aimed at lower volume but higher quality productions. I took a quick look and of the few original content they've produced all of it seemed to be linked to big names or prestige kind of projects. Netflix, on the contrary, seems to be more about higher volume volume but more run of the mill quality, as well as acquiring previous productions of proven success, like "La casa de papel" (Money Heist for international markets).

That may have been the case with HBO, actually it was. But over the last couple years I'm noticing them focussing more on volume....lots of shorter single season series. I think it's directly aimed at competing with Netflix. If one show is not going to bring in subscribers, maybe if we make five shows, one will bring new ones in.

[Josquius]

What does capital drain have to do with football viewing?

Huge numbers of young people are forced to leave their home town and move to London for work. This makes getting to matches a very inconvenient affair for them so even if they're really into football they may only go to a handful of games a year. This serves to deflate gates at many teams (and boost subscriptions to watch football on TV).
A lot move back as they get older but many others don't, once gone they're gone.
This also has broader impacts for breeding the next generation of fans.

Probably.
There's also the complicating factor of increased remote work and flight from London meaning more people with money are able to live closer to home and get to games more.

You're aware that there's an entire world outside the UK and London, right?

for someone so anti brexit Tyr's pretty insular

In a topic about British sports viewing habits and football screening I talk about...British sports viewing habits. What's insular about that?

[Maladict]

What does capital drain have to do with football viewing?

Huge numbers of young people are forced to leave their home town and move to London for work. This makes getting to matches a very inconvenient affair for them so even if they're really into football they may only go to a handful of games a year. This serves to deflate gates at many teams (and boost subscriptions to watch football on TV).
A lot move back as they get older but many others don't, once gone they're gone.
This also has broader impacts for breeding the next generation of fans.

Probably.
There's also the complicating factor of increased remote work and flight from London meaning more people with money are able to live closer to home and get to games more.

You're aware that there's an entire world outside the UK and London, right?

for someone so anti brexit Tyr's pretty insular

In a topic about British sports viewing habits and football screening I talk about...British sports viewing habits. What's insular about that?

The British part? 

[Jacob]

To be fair to Tyr, it was a conversation between Brits about British football.

[Sheilbh]

Rather than "quantity over quality", what Netflix does is cover all the audience niches. They want to have something for everybody. HBO is still focusing on the kind of prestige stuff they built their brand around.
Disney has the same issue. They have some superpopular stuff, but at the same time a very narrow brand and library. They created Star to try to widen the appeal of the platform, but it's still very barebones.

So one interesting thing is Disney is shutting down some of their broadcast channels in the UK (currently on satellite or cable) and moving that content, such as the Walking Dead, onto Disney +. Apparently industry analysts are expecting more of that.

In the UK a lot of that stuff is available on Now TV which is Sky's streaming service but will presumably leave that too. HBO is still broadly shown on Sky through Sky Atlantic who co-produce a fair amount of stuff - and I think they've recently renewed that agreement so HBO shows are not generally available on other streamers in the UK (and we don't have their own here).

It makes a lot of sense though for US companies to basically shutdown their channels on broadcasters outside the US and try and funnel people into a streaming service where they don't share revenue with Sky or Canal+ or whoever else in smaller European markets like the UK. But I think this is the first I've seen

[celedhring]

A streaming platform is also cheaper to operate than a broadcast channel, they are also less regulated (due to being relatively new). I suppose the UK has now proudly Brexited itself from all of the EU's media stuff, too.

[Syt]

Finished Master of None. Really enjoyed it, though it was a bit self indulgent in season 2 in its references to classic Italian cinema. Looking forward to the 3rd season next week, though the trailer and series title makes it look like it's more of an anthology this time? Either way, I'm up for it.

[celedhring]

though it was a bit self indulgent in season 2 in its references to classic Italian cinema.

Now I have to watch this. Clever pedantry is my weakness. 

[grumbler]

To be fair to Tyr...

I thought that that was against the rules.