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Started by grumbler, April 08, 2009, 09:04:02 PM

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Neil

Quote from: Barrister on April 26, 2009, 11:42:33 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 26, 2009, 09:10:54 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 26, 2009, 09:02:14 AM
Jesus tapdancing Christ.  :lol:
You think you did your research?

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It's amusing the one, true god isn't much better at NCAA 2006. :contract:
The college game is evil.  :p

Besides, wasn't I playing the Hurricanes?
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Neil

Quote from: Siege on April 26, 2009, 11:40:41 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on April 11, 2009, 07:30:47 PM
The answer lies in that I am suspicious and downright antagonistic of progress. I tend to swing for faith, valour tradition and moraltiy in the face of science, reason, industry and the whole progressive scene.

I really identify with agrarians, also, which 'civilisation' tends to deal roughly with.

Valour tradition?

What the hell is that?
Do you mean valor?
In that case, what would be a "valor tradition"?
Learn to spell, you ignorant wretch.
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grumbler

Quote from: Siege on April 26, 2009, 11:40:41 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on April 11, 2009, 07:30:47 PM
The answer lies in that I am suspicious and downright antagonistic of progress. I tend to swing for faith, valour tradition and moraltiy in the face of science, reason, industry and the whole progressive scene.

I really identify with agrarians, also, which 'civilisation' tends to deal roughly with.

Valour tradition?

What the hell is that?
Do you mean valor?
In that case, what would be a "valor tradition"?
He meant "velour traditions." Stuff like this:

 
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Quote from: grumbler on April 27, 2009, 08:53:32 AM
He meant "velour traditions." Stuff like this:
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Lettow77

Its true- It is valour & tradition, minus a comma and avoiding the yankee spelling of the word in favour of the correct one.

Although, the South -does- have a tradition of valour. Some of the best soldiers in the world.
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Neil

Quote from: Lettow77 on April 27, 2009, 10:11:33 AM
Its true- It is valour & tradition, minus a comma and avoiding the yankee spelling of the word in favour of the correct one.

Although, the South -does- have a tradition of valour. Some of the best soldiers in the world.
Unfortunately for the South, their valour is inextricably linked to their racism.  The Southern Cavalier culture wasn't born to stand up to Northerners, Europeans, or even to ride down and conquer Mexicans, but rather to ensure the subordination of blacks by any means necessary.
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Lettow77

The military elan that was instilled in the South preceded the South itself- it is primarily a manifestation of the South's celtic origins, and is at much in evidence at Culloden as Gettysburg.

The Celtic influences which defined the South and made disunion inevitable also all but consigned the South to ineffective & reckless tactics.

There is some truth, though, that the Southern vision of civilisation saw the free man as truly a free man, and relied on an underclass to accomplish this, as every society of free men had until that point.
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The Brain

Quote from: Lettow77 on April 27, 2009, 01:18:37 PM
The military elan that was instilled in the South preceded the South itself- it is primarily a manifestation of the South's celtic origins, and is at much in evidence at Culloden as Gettysburg.

The Celtic influences which defined the South and made disunion inevitable also all but consigned the South to ineffective & reckless tactics.


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Neil

Quote from: Lettow77 on April 27, 2009, 01:18:37 PM
The military elan that was instilled in the South preceded the South itself- it is primarily a manifestation of the South's celtic origins, and is at much in evidence at Culloden as Gettysburg.

The Celtic influences which defined the South and made disunion inevitable also all but consigned the South to ineffective & reckless tactics.

There is some truth, though, that the Southern vision of civilisation saw the free man as truly a free man, and relied on an underclass to accomplish this, as every society of free men had until that point.
The North had exactly the same degree of celtic origin as the South, as both were settled from Great Britain, in part by criminals.

Also, I don't think you can pin the South's martial spirit on warriors of the past whose connection to the South is tenuous at best.  The South's martial spirit was a natural outgrowth of the American Revolution mixed with slavery, which itself is a mix of English and North American military styles.
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Quote from: Lettow77 on April 27, 2009, 01:18:37 PM
The military elan that was instilled in the South preceded the South itself- it is primarily a manifestation of the South's celtic origins, and is at much in evidence at Culloden as Gettysburg.


I am kind of ignorant of celtic military history - did they get their asses kicked at Culloden as well?
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ulmont

Quote from: Berkut on April 27, 2009, 02:17:38 PM
I am kind of ignorant of celtic military history - did they get their asses kicked at Culloden as well?

Yup.  Something like a 10-1 kill ratio in favor of the English.

Habsburg

I don't think I like the velour Jesus.

It makes him look like a hand-wringing, bed-wetting, Theresa Heinz-Kerry loving Hippy.  :uffda:

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Lettow77 on April 27, 2009, 01:18:37 PM
The military elan that was instilled in the South preceded the South itself- it is primarily a manifestation of the South's celtic origins

:huh:

How far deep in the sack 'o stupid does one have to reach to pull out this gem?
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Berkut on April 27, 2009, 02:17:38 PM
I am kind of ignorant of celtic military history - did they get their asses kicked at Culloden as well?

They were crushed in a brilliant victory for the neo-Hittite forces.

Many a bell beaker pot was smashed that fatal day.
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