Iceland to vote on repaying 'debt'

[Savonarola]

Iceland to vote on repaying 'debt' 


 
The so-called "Icesave" deal is deeply unpopular with the Icelandic population [Reuters]

Iceland's economic and political future hangs in the balance as it heads towards a referendum on how to compensate Britain and the Netherlands for money lost in the collapse of an Icelandic bank.

Iceland has made a last-ditch compensation offer to both countries in talks over $5.7bn lost in "Icesave" accounts, ahead of a referendum this weekend which is expected to nullify the current deal.

Ossur Skarphedinsson, the foreign minister, told the Financial Times Deutschland newspaper that Iceland was awaiting British and Dutch replies to the offer.

The measure provides $3.8bn to the UK and $1.9bn to the Netherlands from 2016 to repay expenditures to compensate citizens who lost money in the collapse of Icesave.

The payout has stirred up considerable resentment among many ordinary Icelanders hard hit by their country's financial meltdown in 2008.

Skarphedinsson told the paper the deadline of the referendum meant "we're under high pressure like never before. Those are good conditions for achieving an agreement."

Growing anger

Skarphedinsson said that if Saturday's referendum went ahead a "No" vote was certain and that the negotiations would be further drawn out.


The Icesave deal is deeply unpopular with the Icelandic population and there is widespread feeling that taxpayers are being left to foot the bill for mistakes made by financial firms operating under the watch of other national regulators.

Rejection of the Icesave bill would likely freeze the foreign aid needed to resuscitate Iceland's economy and cloud its prospects of joining the European Union (EU).

Support for accession has been falling in past months and membership now opposed by more than half of Icelanders, nearly twice the level seen just after the 2008 financial crisis in which three of Iceland's leading banks collapsed.

"Attitudes towards EU membership are changing drastically," Gudbjorg Andrea Jonsdottir, a research director at pollster Capacent, said.

"There is a lot of anger over the Icesave saga and, rightly or wrongly, some blame is directed at the EU, which only adds to long-held Icelandic suspicions about Brussels."

EU factor

Skarphedinsson was hopeful Icelanders would accept any cancellation of the referendum should a new deal more favourable to Iceland be struck.


The payment of the $5.7bn, is equivalent to nearly 40 per cent of the country's GDP [AFP]
But the ballot may be difficult to cancel without support from opposition parties, who are trying to turn the referendum into a vote on the centre-left government.

"If we reach a deal in the short-term, the conditions would be so good that there wouldn't be any great frustrations among the population," Skarphedinsson said.

Britain and the Netherlands have proposed softer terms than those agreed to late last year, but talks broke down last week as Iceland held out for a better deal.

Iceland, however, has little choice but to push for an agreement because Britain and the Netherlands want to settle the Icesave matter before funds from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) can resume and help rebuild its economy.

The measure foresees staggering through to 2024 the payment of the $5.7bn, which is equivalent to nearly 40 per cent of the country's annual gross domestic product.

Johanna Sigurdardottir, the prime minister, has tried to play down the expected rejection of the Icesave bill, which she pushed through parliament at a great political cost but which was rejected by the president, triggering the referendum on March 6.

Icesave was an online subsidiary of Iceland's Landsbanki bank, which had to be rescued in October 2008 as the global credit crunch hit.

It had attracted thousands of savers due to its high interest rates.

So what would happen if Iceland doesn't approve the measure and in turn the IMF does not help Iceland rebuild their economy?

[Viking]

No, if Iceland says no Britain and the Netherlands might get really prissy, but Iceland will have it's but saved by Norway (cheap loan to pay the dutch and british).

[Jaron]

Are they rioting?

[Viking]

Are they rioting?

They already did that..

[Jaron]

Hey Viking, just out of curiosity how many non-whites, IE Eskimoos, Asians, Africans et al are there in Iceland? All the pics I've seen from the ones above to the Elf sex videos have not showcased the multiculturalism of your island.

[Drakken]

Hey Viking, just out of curiosity how many non-whites, IE Eskimoos, Asians, Africans et al are there in Iceland? All the pics I've seen from the ones above to the Elf sex videos have not showcased the multiculturalism of your island.

Aside of the trolls and gnomes, none.

[Viking]

Hey Viking, just out of curiosity how many non-whites, IE Eskimoos, Asians, Africans et al are there in Iceland? All the pics I've seen from the ones above to the Elf sex videos have not showcased the multiculturalism of your island.

A few years ago a paper held a poll asking if there were too many pakistanis in the country. After an overwhelming yes vote the paper revealed that there were 3.

So, no furriners, the poles all went home after the economy tanked. We don't have multiculturalism, we have monoculturalism.

[Jaron]

Interesting, thank you.

[Admiral Yi]

So what would happen if Iceland doesn't approve the measure and in turn the IMF does not help Iceland rebuild their economy?

They would be shut out of international capital markets for 20 to 30 years and they would have to run a trade surplus.

[Viking]

So what would happen if Iceland doesn't approve the measure and in turn the IMF does not help Iceland rebuild their economy?

They would be shut out of international capital markets for 20 to 30 years and they would have to run a trade surplus.

No, Norway bails us out and are insufferably smug for the next 100 years.

[Admiral Yi]

No, Norway bails us out and are insufferably smug for the next 100 years.

I don't see how Norway can bail you out on a debt to Holland and the UK that Icelandic citizens have voted not to repay.

[Martinus]

Debtors holding a vote whether or not to repay their debt is a bit like criminals sitting on a grand jury.

[Viking]

No, Norway bails us out and are insufferably smug for the next 100 years.

I don't see how Norway can bail you out on a debt to Holland and the UK that Icelandic citizens have voted not to repay.

They haven't voted not to repay, nor is anybody suggesting that the payment won't be made, just complaining about the unfair terms. If Norway is suggesting that a solution would be for Norway to give Iceland a monstrously cheap loan (given our credit rating) to pay the brits and dutch. But they want us to make a good faith effort to try and solve this ourselves.

[Jaron]

We should sink them afterall.

[Admiral Yi]

They haven't voted not to repay, nor is anybody suggesting that the payment won't be made, just complaining about the unfair terms. If Norway is suggesting that a solution would be for Norway to give Iceland a monstrously cheap loan (given our credit rating) to pay the brits and dutch. But they want us to make a good faith effort to try and solve this ourselves.

Ah, OK.  Off the top of your big fat head do you happen to know what rate the Brits and Dutchies are offering?