The first really good Hitchens article in a while (North Korea is the subject)

[Josquius]

There's got to be thousands of Korean girls with a white boy fetish. Try harder. 

How's that going to help Tim, seeing how he is not white? 

Oh? What am I then? African, Asian, Native American or a Pacific Islander?

Latino

[jimmy olsen]

Nope, sorry G.

Latino/Hispanic is an ethnocultural term not a racial one. There are White Latinos, Black Latinos and Native American Latinos.

Hmm...if a Spanish speaking South American of Japanese descent moved to the US I wonder what they would put down on their census form?

[Neil]

There's got to be thousands of Korean girls with a white boy fetish. Try harder. 

Tim is Mexican, not white.  There are no girls who like Mexican boys.

[derspiess]

What I find funny is how Westerns often get totally surprised and shocked by the fact that various "communist" totalitarianisms freely employ racism, xenophobia and antisemitism to further their goals. I mean, the same happened in Poland in 1950-1960s.

Leftist Westerners or Westerners in general?

[Razgovory]

In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.

Asians have slanty eyes but they can still see.  Just not at night.   

Then Tim should strike at night!

[Tamas]

There's got to be thousands of Korean girls with a white boy fetish. Try harder. 

He ain't exactly white, you know

[Lettow77]

 North Korea terrifies me. I am primarily worried on Japan's behalf- but the conscription and economic collapse that might entail Japan being nuked doesn't reassure me either.

I do not take it for granted North Korea's government will act rationally, nor do I take it for granted America could win that war as it stands right now.

I wish North Korea was our #1 foreign policy ussue.

[CountDeMoney]

Still, there is a lot of ignorance (not malicious I think, just flat out ignorance) here about other peoples and races.

Then the flat ignorance is on you, Round Eye.  Asians are the most racist peoples out there, from China to Japan to South Korea. They put European ant-semitism and anti-brown-pipplesism to shame.

[Neil]

Still, there is a lot of ignorance (not malicious I think, just flat out ignorance) here about other peoples and races.

Then the flat ignorance is on you, Round Eye.  Asians are the most racist peoples out there, from China to Japan to South Korea. They put European ant-semitism and anti-brown-pipplesism to shame.

Yeah, but Asian racism is alright, because it's done in the right way.  Many of them acknowledge the superiority of the white man (although inevitably they consider their own group to be equal to the whites), and they virulently hate all other types of Asian, as well as everybody else.  Unfortunately for Tim, he's part of 'everybody else'.

[Berkut]

I think he means that having to deal with this horror show is in our future.

I guess you are right, but I suspect that South Korea will be dealing with it most.  Just like Germany dealt with it's commie portion after the wall fell.

To that extent, I think you are missingthe point of his article, which is that looking at North Korea as a "last gasp holdout" of traditional Communism (like East Germany) is not really understanding the problem.

They are not Communists, really, and probably never really were. And they are not going to fall over like the Communist regimes all fell, eventually.

By the same token, 1945-1989 Poland wasn't communist either.

I am not making his argument, just repeating it. you will have to take it up with him.

[Josquius]

Nope, sorry G.

Latino/Hispanic is an ethnocultural term not a racial one. There are White Latinos, Black Latinos and Native American Latinos.

Hmm...if a Spanish speaking South American of Japanese descent moved to the US I wonder what they would put down on their census form?

Latino is a race. Or rather a sub-race. 'Caucasian' is the broad race. Whites are....white. Very pale northern originated folk.
The lines of course are not exact and many Spaniards, Italians, etc... are white these days but meh, the stereotype is they're all swarthy.
This has been covered in court cases before, Indians are unquestionably caucasian but according to US vs. Bhagat Singh Thind not white.
But I was just joking on, I don't give a crap.
I'd imagine your said oriental hispanic would put down Japanese though, then he wouldn't be counted amongst the hispanic menace.

Asians have slanty eyes but they can still see.  Just not at night.   

I was referring to- over in the west latinos are usually not the whitest of folks. But in a country full of Koreans they're pretty darn white as far as they're concerned.

[jimmy olsen]

Nope, sorry G.

Latino/Hispanic is an ethnocultural term not a racial one. There are White Latinos, Black Latinos and Native American Latinos.

Hmm...if a Spanish speaking South American of Japanese descent moved to the US I wonder what they would put down on their census form?

Latino is a race. Or rather a sub-race. 'Caucasian' is the broad race. Whites are....white. Very pale northern originated folk.
The lines of course are not exact and many Spaniards, Italians, etc... are white these days but meh, the stereotype is they're all swarthy.
This has been covered in court cases before, Indians are unquestionably caucasian but according to US vs. Bhagat Singh Thind not white.
But I was just joking on, I don't give a crap.
I'd imagine your said oriental hispanic would put down Japanese though, then he wouldn't be counted amongst the hispanic menace.

Don't be so fucking ignorant. The term Latino does not in any way  refer to race. It's an ethnocultural term.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf

As to the Japanese South American, if a native Spanish speaker he should check off both Asian and Hispanic.

Census 2000 adheres to the federal standards for collecting and presenting data on race and Hispanic origin as established by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB)
in October 1997.

The OMB defines Hispanic or Latino as "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race."

Number of Hispanic Asians in the US in 2000 was Asian  119,829. (page 10)

[Martim Silva]

What I find funny is how Westerns often get totally surprised and shocked by the fact that various "communist" totalitarianisms freely employ racism, xenophobia and antisemitism to further their goals. I mean, the same happened in Poland in 1950-1960s.

First, North Korea has changed the ideology to suit its needs - their juche doctrine is totally alien to Communism, which is about the workers of the world sharing the fruits of their labour and their wealth. The Koreans just wanted to shut everybody out.

Second, they starting handing power down from father to son - that is pretty much a Monarchy, and anathema to true Communism.

As for Poland, you know, there WAS a reason why the USSR always kept watching Warsaw from real close.

Bottom line, as long as there are people who were born in or close to an age of nationalism, nations tend to veer to their more "historical" lines, no matter the ideology. Which is why they need a big brother to watch over and see if they don't veer too much from the path. Poland had this in the form of the USSR, North Korea unfortunately did not (and Cambodia had Vietnam, who put order in the Neolithic idiocy which was Kampuchea).

[jimmy olsen]

What I find funny is how Westerns often get totally surprised and shocked by the fact that various "communist" totalitarianisms freely employ racism, xenophobia and antisemitism to further their goals. I mean, the same happened in Poland in 1950-1960s.

Bottom line, as long as there are people who were born in or close to an age of nationalism, nations tend to veer to their more "historical" lines, no matter the ideology. Which is why they need a big brother to watch over and see if they don't veer too much from the path. Poland had this in the form of the USSR, North Korea unfortunately did not (and Cambodia had Vietnam, who put order in the Neolithic idiocy which was Kampuchea).

What?

[Grinning_Colossus]

Number of Hispanic Asians in the US in 2000 was Asian  119,829. (page 10)

Probably just confused Filipinos.