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Star Trek Online: The Continuing Languish Mission

Started by Barrister, January 28, 2010, 10:22:37 PM

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Syt

Quote from: katmai on February 14, 2010, 02:40:47 AM
I've been curious as to the question of will they ever show any of the characters from the shows in game, or stick to the descendants as you mention.

As I see it those characters will either be pretty old (Spock, Ambassador Picard, Gen. Worf) or it will be via time travel (Guardian of Forever). Or maybe a crafty engineer will survive the decades by storing his patterns in a transporter memory buffer. ;)
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Syt

Yay, again scheduled maintenance between noon and 2 pm.  :glare:

Well, maybe the server will crash again, so they can do it earlier. :P
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

katmai

Quote from: Syt on February 14, 2010, 02:51:01 AM
Quote from: katmai on February 14, 2010, 02:40:47 AM
I've been curious as to the question of will they ever show any of the characters from the shows in game, or stick to the descendants as you mention.

As I see it those characters will either be pretty old (Spock, Ambassador Picard, Gen. Worf) or it will be via time travel (Guardian of Forever). Or maybe a crafty engineer will survive the decades by storing his patterns in a transporter memory buffer. ;)

Wesley Crusher would be in his 40's! :P
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sbr

Quote from: Barrister on February 14, 2010, 02:06:45 AM
Quote from: Syt on February 14, 2010, 12:41:49 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 13, 2010, 05:01:34 PM
I was thinking the same thing this morning as I entered a new sector.  Its all the same. Same enemies, same basic quest tasks, same items (with the only difference being MRK 1-whatever).  There is no sense of exploration in this game.  No sense of wondering what is around the next corner.  Its all pretty generic.

I think an issue is here that Star Trek has fewer iconic places than, say, Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. How many planets from Star Trek do you remember? How many even make more than one appearance?

Star Wars is 6 movies.

LotR is 4 books.

Star Trek is 11 movies and 6 television series, containing hundreds of hours of materials.

Don't focus on how many planets from ST you remember.  The show always had most of its action in space.  Instead think of how many characters do you remember - how many aliens do you remember - how many ships do you remember.

I haven't played the game.  I watched TOS growing up and my ex-wife was a Trekkie so I humored her by watching TNG and TOS reruns with her, so take my opinion for whatever you think it is worth.

I think Syt has a point.  Outside of some neat looking ships and uniforms, I am not sure what STO can offer that a generic space themed MMO couldn't offer.  You have some interesting races (Klingon, Borg) but what else ties the games to the rest of the ST universe.  Can you visit the "Nazi Planet", or the "Grump" planet?  Can you pile shovels full of tribbels into an incinerator? 

LOTR has some great locations that are ripe for an MMO: The Shire, the Mines of Moria, Mirkwood Forest etc.

The Star Wars Universe has some reasonable locations, but also has the great Jedi Knight v. Sith dynamic to work with.  They also have light sabers.

I just don't see what the Star Trek Universe has that could compare to those two, as far as basing an MMO around.

Syt

Yay. First maintenance. Then server crash. Now server not responding when zoning.  :mad:
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

crazy canuck

Ok, that Guardian of time quest was awesome.

btw, having no trouble with the server here.

Fate

For the past week or so I consistently get "Server cannot be found" that delays loading between zones. You never actually DC, but it's annoying as hell.


Syt

Quote from: Fate on February 14, 2010, 02:18:50 PM
For the past week or so I consistently get "Server cannot be found" that delays loading between zones. You never actually DC, but it's annoying as hell.

Believe me, it can disconnect you if it stays long enough. ;)
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Seen

I finally found out why my preorder items were not there (Apperently according to the forums im an enourmous douche for expecting my key to work instantly instead of giving them any more subscription payment, but silly noob me) but now my joined trill gets...



2 additional traits?

Just like everyone else?

COME ON!  :cry:

Syt

And just when I say hello to Seen I get kicked off the server.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Seen


Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Barrister

Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Strix

Quote from: sbr on February 14, 2010, 05:17:28 AM
I think Syt has a point.  Outside of some neat looking ships and uniforms, I am not sure what STO can offer that a generic space themed MMO couldn't offer.  You have some interesting races (Klingon, Borg) but what else ties the games to the rest of the ST universe.  Can you visit the "Nazi Planet", or the "Grump" planet?  Can you pile shovels full of tribbels into an incinerator? 

LOTR has some great locations that are ripe for an MMO: The Shire, the Mines of Moria, Mirkwood Forest etc.

The Star Wars Universe has some reasonable locations, but also has the great Jedi Knight v. Sith dynamic to work with.  They also have light sabers.

I just don't see what the Star Trek Universe has that could compare to those two, as far as basing an MMO around.

I think it depends on what direction STO wants to head.

PvE might create issues. There are just so many missions you can do to so many places. I think that's an issue that faces all MMO's. After awhile all missions/quests boil down to kill X things Y numbers of times, gatherer T number of things and bring them to B, etc, and so on.

PvP I think STO could have a bright future depending on how they handle it. Everything is already in place for interstellar wars.

I think one issue that STO can avoid that LoTR and Star Wars cannot is creating a story paradox or uber classes.

You can only kill Sauron once. If you cannot kill him than what is left? I played the old Star Wars MMO and Jedi ruined the game. Everyone wants to be an all-powerful Jedi, so it was like 1,000,000 DKs running around the starting area.

I think STO will take some effort on the designer's parts to keep it fresh but I think it can do so.

I haven't played the game yet (new computer ETA 02/26) so whatever I say needs to be taken with a grain of salt and some Romulan Ale.

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Barrister

Gah, doing the Guardian of Forever mission, and I'm not routinely getting my ass handed to me. in an encounter.

The mission is +1 or +2 for me, so ordinarily I'd just quit and come back later, but I'm in the "past" - would that even work?
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