Because Hope Springs Eternal: Languish EU3 MP thread

[Tamas]

I'm really not sure that would be really necessary.  I mean, look at Eu2 games, albeit I've never bothered playing Eu3 in mp, by 1550 from a 1492 nearly everyone is interacting.  I don't necessarily think bunching everyone together is a must.

Sure, I am fine either way. But for example, in 1399, you can't put someone in Russia, be it Novgorod or Muscowy and say "there, you will gobble up the neighbors and will go strong by the time you meet us" because that is some pretty hard challenge right there. Same goes for Ottomans altough to a lesser degree, while England and Austria has it realively easy.

[Alcibiades]

Yeah, but they were saying a 1492 start, which evens the playing field a little.

[Tamas]

Indeed in fact I outlined that possibility myself.

[Barrister]

I can volunteer as a sub since I can make the occasional game, but I'd be lying to you guys and myself to say i'd be there every sunday at 7am

Same boat here.  I could sub, but no way I'm promising to be at my computer every Sunday at 8am.

[Slargos]

Or we could just play western majors either in 1399 or 1453. How about in 1399: England, France, Castille, Aragon, Burgundy, Austria, and either Milan or Portugal? That would mean constant human interaction, well except for maybe Austria.

Thinking over it again, it might be best if we went ahead and played a bunch of majors.  I am wary of placing two PCs in control of Castille/Aragon, though--doesn't that practically guarantee that one of them will try to smash the other to create Spain?

Quite frankly, I think any game that has players in both Castille and Aragon will be fucked from get-go. Neither will be able to get the upper hand without a crazy amount of blood shed, and by the time there is a victor France will have consolidated and there will be a 300 year early Napoleon criss-crossing the continent.

Players don't need to be stacked on top of eachother to have gainful interaction.

Either they need to be evenly spaced out so that everyone has a roughly equal opportunity for growth through AI countries, or they need to be placed in such a fashion that the people in the east are penalized by having many neighbours in exchange for having a free reign of the eastern AI nations.

A good question is also if we're expecting to play the game all the way through to the 19th century or not.

If I'm allowed to be a bit realistic here, I figure we get half a game at most, and in that time frame we don't really need a Russia nor perhaps really a Spain.

Given this it might actually be a pretty good idea to try out the electors game.

[Kleves]

If we don't want to do just electors, we could do a central European game. Say Bavaria, Bohemia, Bradenburg, Venice, Denmark, Sweden, and Poland?

[Alcibiades]

Venice seems to be an oddball a bit there.

[Kleves]

Scatch Poland, then, and add Milan.

[Slargos]

If we don't want to do just electors, we could do a central European game. Say Bavaria, Bohemia, Bradenburg, Venice, Denmark, Sweden, and Poland?

Sounds like a working plan to me.

Although I would probably drop Sweden and go for the dutch instead, in addition to adding Milan and dropping Poland.

[Slargos]

Hope was raped and savagely beaten by the ham-fisted interns at Paradox who obviously did the coding for Heir to the Throne.

Turns out there is a chat bug in MP which crashes the game.

Beta patch fixed it but introduced a province selection CTD.

Keep your fingers crossed for the possibility of a patch in reasonable time. I don't see a big point in starting a game with HTTT unless we can actually talk to eachother in-game.

[katmai]

Hope was raped and savagely beaten by the ham-fisted interns at Paradox who obviously did the coding for Heir to the Throne.

Turns out there is a chat bug in MP which crashes the game.

Beta patch fixed it but introduced a province selection CTD.

Keep your fingers crossed for the possibility of a patch in reasonable time. I don't see a big point in starting a game with HTTT unless we can actually talk to eachother in-game.

I don't like talking to you in forum, why would i want to in game you slack jawed yokel!

[Kleves]

Turns out there is a chat bug in MP which crashes the game.

That's impressively pathetic, even for Paradox. Hopefully Johan won't announce that it's WAD.

As far as adding the Dutch in place of Sweden, I would be worried that would mean far less player interaction for Holland and Denmark.

[Seen]

A man Ive played in almost all languish games and now Ill have to miss it

You guys better make AARs or...nothing but if you do it would be appreciated

[Slargos]

Hope was raped and savagely beaten by the ham-fisted interns at Paradox who obviously did the coding for Heir to the Throne.

Turns out there is a chat bug in MP which crashes the game.

Beta patch fixed it but introduced a province selection CTD.

Keep your fingers crossed for the possibility of a patch in reasonable time. I don't see a big point in starting a game with HTTT unless we can actually talk to eachother in-game.

I don't like talking to you in forum, why would i want to in game you slack jawed yokel!

Why would I care what a wetback wants or likes? 

The problem is that if I cannot chat I cannot do the trash talking for you when I beat your beaner ass back to Africa.

[Tamas]

So there is a working 4.1 beta patch out now. What gives?