WW1, the short and easy way

[grumbler]

I will continue to hold that US intervention was a mistake.

But then, the question has to be asked...why in the hell did you vote for Wilson TWO TIMES, sir!?

That was Henry Braid Wilson.  Not Woodrow.

[Faeelin]

In re:  the US not joining the war, if the US doesn't join, it is pretty much as Neil proposes:  Germany retrenches with her control over Ukraine, thus stopping a great deal of the hunger, and the Entente loses Russia without a counterbalancing gain.  At that point, the Alllies would probably be willing to deal, and if the Kaiser could be shut away someplace or convinced to keep his fucking mouth shut, a negotiated peace could have been achieved. It is possible that it wouldn't, but the worst-case result for the US non-intervention is better than what historically occurred with US intervention, so I will continue to hold that US intervention was a mistake.

I'm not so sure. Let's say they "retrench" in the Ukraine. It's not clear to me they'll be able to get any grain out of the place; they had trouble doing so OTL, after all; even the Third Reich, which had far fewer compunctions about letting the Slavs starve, couldn't really manage it.

Meanwhile, the blockade is still in place. And the Allies are learning how to use tanks.

I admit an even more dramatic defeat might help the Germans.

[Neil]

even the Third Reich, which had far fewer compunctions about letting the Slavs starve, couldn't really manage it.

Which is a big part of why the Nazis could never get anything out of it.