British Freedom of Speech withered, dying

[Admiral Yi]

What Throbby said.  But the term you're looking for is mosaic I think.

[Caliga]

I've heard the term "salad bowl" used instead of melting pot for the very same reasons CC cites.

[Caliga]

How are you planning to impregnate the gay women?

[Berkut]

I've heard the term "salad bowl" used instead of melting pot for the very same reasons CC cites.

Yeah, I just don't buy that there is any actual, rather than semantic, difference.

To the extent there is a difference, it is a matter of degrees, rather than anything substantial. And pretty hard to tell if the difference is simply due to different time frames, and even different cultures and the speed at which they integrate.

It is all Heinz 57 in the end, I suspect.

[Jacob]

London seems close to the successful real multicultiness.

I always thought multiculturalism was actually a sort of way of dealing with numerous cultures within a society or a city.  I didn't realise that it was really religious education classes about Hinduism

Yeah, pretty much.

[Jacob]

I describe London as a city that is real multi-culti, not because it's special but because that's what the process means to me.  It's not ghettoised to any significant degree - indeed one sign of how successful its been in London and a few other cities is that we have multi-cultural, multi-racial, multi-ethnic gangs

Yeah, same in Vancouver.  One of them is even called the "United Nations" 

Right bunch of murderous bastards, it seems.

[Caliga]

Yeah, same in Vancouver.  One of them is even called the "United Nations" 

Right bunch of murderous bastards, it seems.

Do they tag stop signs in Esperanto? 

[Barrister]

Yeah, same in Vancouver.  One of them is even called the "United Nations" 

Right bunch of murderous bastards, it seems.

  I heard about them at the BC Crown conference I went to right before meeting you guys.

Most of the other gangs though are very unicultural though (assuming you can call "bikers" a culture).

[Jacob]

Yeah, I just don't buy that there is any actual, rather than semantic, difference.

To the extent there is a difference, it is a matter of degrees, rather than anything substantial. And pretty hard to tell if the difference is simply due to different time frames, and even different cultures and the speed at which they integrate.

It is all Heinz 57 in the end, I suspect.

Yeah, I think you're right.  The distinctions (amongst places that welcome immigrants) are more down to where a particular place is in the process and what the particular characteristics of the new immigrants and the older community they're immigrating too.  Your Canadian multiculturalism/ melting pot/ mosaic/ whatever is going to be little bit different than your US because there are some differences in values and because the immigrant groups are different; similarly there'll be some differences between a multicultural LA vs New York and multicultural Toronto vs Montreal vs Vancouver.

[Jacob]

Yeah, same in Vancouver.  One of them is even called the "United Nations" 

Right bunch of murderous bastards, it seems.

Do they tag stop signs in Esperanto? 

No.  Mostly they deal drugs and shoot members of rival gangs (and get shot).

[Caliga]

No.  Mostly they deal drugs and shoot members of rival gangs (and get shot).

How unoriginal.

[Jacob]

How unoriginal.

Yeah I know.

[crazy canuck]

This is no different than the "melting pot". It is just a matter of time. There is plenty of "unique characteristics" in NYC or Boston or Chicago, for example.

That is why the melting pot metaphor doesnt work in NYC either.  People dont get melted together and all end up being the same thing.

[Sheilbh]

Yeah, I just don't buy that there is any actual, rather than semantic, difference.

To the extent there is a difference, it is a matter of degrees, rather than anything substantial. And pretty hard to tell if the difference is simply due to different time frames, and even different cultures and the speed at which they integrate.

It is all Heinz 57 in the end, I suspect.

This could be the case.  Who knows, in another 100 years Indians might be moaning about plastic Punjabi Brits talking up their Indian heritage

[Jacob]

This could be the case.  Who knows, in another 100 years Indians might be moaning about plastic Punjabi Brits talking up their Indian heritage

I'm pretty sure there's a bit of that stuff already.