Anti-Minaret Online Referendum

[DGuller]

I was expressing an honest sentiment in a slightly exaggerated language.  Whenever there is a disputed issue that's close to 50/50, and that issue has a pretty undisputed retarded and non-retarded side, you can be very sure that those identifying themselves as Republicans will make up the bulk of the retarded side.  I can't think of one issue off the top of my head where Democrats fall on the retarded end of the spectrum.

Love of the Soviet Union.

9/11 Truthers.

Were either of those issues ever close to being 50/50 in society?  I qualified myself for a reason, because I only wanted to talk about "mainstream retardations".  Of course there are going to be fringe retardations on both the right or the left.

[Admiral Yi]

Were either of those issues ever close to being 50/50 in society?  I qualified myself for a reason, because I only wanted to talk about "mainstream retardations".  Of course there are going to be fringe retardations on both the right or the left.

Point taken.  What 50/50 splits do you see as being retard-right?  I was going to grant creationism, but I don't think that's a 50/50 split.

[Berkut]

Whenever there is a disputed issue that's close to 50/50, and that issue has a pretty undisputed retarded and non-retarded side,

That makes no sense at all.

basically you are saying "Hey, whenever there is an issue under dispute, it is MY side that is not retarded! This, btw, is not partisan rhetoric!"

[Martinus]

Were either of those issues ever close to being 50/50 in society?  I qualified myself for a reason, because I only wanted to talk about "mainstream retardations".  Of course there are going to be fringe retardations on both the right or the left.

Point taken.  What 50/50 splits do you see as being retard-right?  I was going to grant creationism, but I don't think that's a 50/50 split.

Gay marriage.

[Martinus]

Whenever there is a disputed issue that's close to 50/50, and that issue has a pretty undisputed retarded and non-retarded side,

That makes no sense at all.

basically you are saying "Hey, whenever there is an issue under dispute, it is MY side that is not retarded! This, btw, is not partisan rhetoric!"

Ok, so name one political issue on which the official Democrat party stance is retarded.

[DGuller]

Point taken.  What 50/50 splits do you see as being retard-right?  I was going to grant creationism, but I don't think that's a 50/50 split.

Actually, that's one of the things I thought of.  The actual issue isn't a belief in creationism, though, but rather desire to teach it in school.  I don't know the level of support for that one, but if it's supported widely enough, then it's a prime example.

Another example is linking Saddam and 9/11.  Frighteningly enough, lots and lots of people believed it back in 2003.

[Admiral Yi]

Actually, that's one of the things I thought of.  The actual issue isn't a belief in creationism, though, but rather desire to teach it in school.  I don't know the level of support for that one, but if it's supported widely enough, then it's a prime example.

Another example is linking Saddam and 9/11.  Frighteningly enough, lots and lots of people believed it back in 2003.

We just went through 10 years of a Republican controlled White House and Congress.  Don't you think if teaching creationism were a 50/50 split they would have done something about it?

I may be mistaken but I think belief in Saddam9/11 was pretty ecumenical.

[Berkut]

Whenever there is a disputed issue that's close to 50/50, and that issue has a pretty undisputed retarded and non-retarded side,

That makes no sense at all.

basically you are saying "Hey, whenever there is an issue under dispute, it is MY side that is not retarded! This, btw, is not partisan rhetoric!"

Ok, so name one political issue on which the official Democrat party stance is retarded.

I can name a lot that *I* think are retarded, but so what?

Demand to bail on Afghanistan
Demand to bail on Iraq RIGHTNOW!
No blood for oil
Yanking support for Poland and kissing ass to the Russians instead
Spending trillions on bullshit that has nothing to do with stimulus



I mean, I could go on, but all I am doing is listing things where I think the Dems by and large are wrong. I would not presume to declare my views are "facts" though.

[Berkut]

Point taken.  What 50/50 splits do you see as being retard-right?  I was going to grant creationism, but I don't think that's a 50/50 split.

Actually, that's one of the things I thought of.  The actual issue isn't a belief in creationism, though, but rather desire to teach it in school.  I don't know the level of support for that one, but if it's supported widely enough, then it's a prime example.

Another example is linking Saddam and 9/11.  Frighteningly enough, lots and lots of people believed it back in 2003.

Not a 50-50 split at all though, and I bet a lot of people who believed it were not Republicans.

[grumbler]

Love of the Soviet Union.

9/11 Truthers.

AIDS Conspiracies
2000 election stealers
"The Bush administration never wanted to capture Bin Laden, it wanted to use him to..."
Bush "shadow government"

[grumbler]

Again, tolerance does not involve being nice or polite. Tolerance is an ideological/political stance, not an emotional or social one.

I think this is just one of those cases where the English word doesn't mean what you think it does.  I am not sure what word you are looking for, but "wow, what a retarded response!" is not an example of "tolerant."  Maybe you can get some Polish friend with a better grasp of English to help you find it.

[Ed Anger]

Yanking support for Poland and kissing ass to the Russians instead

That was a positive.

[Sheilbh]

What's your objection?

I think it's an inaccurate characterisation of Cold War politics.  To the best of my knowledge the USSR-lovers never did well in elections.  I mean looking at the Presidents I'd say that Truman, Kennedy, Johnson and Carter weren't particularly USSR-loving, neither, to the best of my understanding were Democrat Representatives or Senators for the most part.

[Admiral Yi]

I think it's an inaccurate characterisation of Cold War politics.  To the best of my knowledge the USSR-lovers never did well in elections.  I mean looking at the Presidents I'd say that Truman, Kennedy, Johnson and Carter weren't particularly USSR-loving, neither, to the best of my understanding were Democrat Representatives or Senators for the most part.

To clarify, when I answered I was focusing on the part of DGuller's statement about where the bulk of the retards were.

[Fate]

9/11 Truthers.

Stating that 9/11 Truthers are full of shit will not cause you to lose the Democrat primary.

Stating that man evolved from a pile of goo consisting of ribonucleotides and lipid membranes will cause you to lose the Republican primary in a landslide.