So lets game out Trump's imperial ambitions (Panama, Greenland, Canada)

[Admiral Yi]

Let  it go Raz.

[Razgovory]

Whatevs.  

[Solmyr]

I don't think any US general would defy the order to invade Canada, but a bunch of them would probably resign rather than participate.

Trump will just appoint the kind of generals Hitler had.

[Solmyr]

I don't think any US general would defy the order to invade Canada, but a bunch of them would probably resign rather than participate.

That said there is zero chance Trump would order an invasion of Canada.  Even under the most favorable circumstances it would require a massive military garrison to be effective.

Also little chance re Panama because it could easily create an Afghan-like situation with US troops at permanent risk of terrorist and hit-and-run attacks, not to mention seriously elevating risks to sabotage attacks on the canal itself.

The generals will talk him of those because they can show it is bad for business.

Greenland OTOH may be a risk because it could be easily done for not much dollar and cent cost. It would be catastrophic to US standing and transform the EU into a military alliance hostile to both the US and Russia; it would mean the end of Taiwan and many other awful consequences. But Trump doesn't give a crap about that stuff. Greenland is really really big and Trump likes big.  It has stuff like "rare earth metals" which aren't particularly rare but it sounds really cool and impressive. It's just stupid enough for Trump to do t.

Yes, a grim prospect, if so France and the UK really should work together to build a joint EU nuclear deterrent.

Invading Greenland would be a great way to drive the EU into the arms of China.

[viper37]

You don't need to bomb if there is no resistance.

Why don't you sign up in the new Republican Army?
It's a sure way of not ending up homeless once they cut your social benefits.  Might be a good way to garner some protection too once they start their witch hunts for former Democrats.

[Duque de Bragança]

La France des 130 départements ? 

Correct France.

If so, have it your way:



134 with the Catalonian départements (1812-1814) ;  the Illyrian provinces being in an undefined status (not départements).

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Unacceptable form of France.

[The Minsky Moment]

Unacceptable form of France.

No Milan, right?  Louis XII would be furious.

[Neil]

I'm not sure if the UK can - I think we're in too deep with the Atlantic alliance/reliant on the US on nuclear stuff.

Between Skybolt, Polaris and Trident, I think that's been the case since before most Languishites were born. 

France could but I'm not sure, in that context, that they'd want to Europeanise their power.

I can't imagine that they'd ever wish that to be the case. 

(But we should have done Franco-British union as proposed by Churchill or Mollet )

You got the EU instead.

[Neil]

134 with the Catalonian départements (1812-1814) ;  the Illyrian provinces being in an undefined status (not départements).

Wait, if we get a huge France, does Britain have to take back the Irish?

[mongers]

I'm not sure if the UK can - I think we're in too deep with the Atlantic alliance/reliant on the US on nuclear stuff.

Between Skybolt, Polaris and Trident, I think that's been the case since before most Languishites were born. 

I don't disagree with you and Shelf and I'm aware that UK nuclear weapons design experienced a sudden uptick in effectiveness once relations warmed with the US and IIRC later the French may also have enjoyed some technology transfers.

One approach if to have several European countries with independent nuclear forces, granted the UK might have to resort to lobbing trident warhead off of aircraft, but the French might reconstitute a three-part Force de Frappe.

And German, Italy, Spain and some of the Nordic countries could come up with workable devices quite rapidly.

Given the general incompetence of the Russia Army/border/security forces, I can see the Nordic special forces running rings around them, as they hand-deliver nukes to all top tier addresses in the Far north and St. Petersburg regions.

[The Minsky Moment]

I'm not sure if the UK can - I think we're in too deep with the Atlantic alliance/reliant on the US on nuclear stuff.

Necessity is the mother of political improvisation. 

Or the UK can start prep work now on transfer of sovereignty for Bermuda and the Caymans.

[Sheilbh]

Necessity is the mother of political improvisation. 

Yeah - sadly I've been hoping that for the last 8 years...But here we are, again.

Or the UK can start prep work now on transfer of sovereignty for Bermuda and the Caymans.

Meh.

I had always hoped that blowing up Bermuda or the Caymans' sovereignty would be in order to crush their shady tax haven-ing, money laundering economy. With Trump I feel like that may be precisely the attraction.

[Rex Francorum]

All I want is to not be lumped in with the RoC into, again, the same state.

You'll be merged with Ontario specifically

We have a precedent : 1841.

[crazy canuck]

Upper and Lower Canada, together again.