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Israel-Hamas War 2023

Started by Zanza, October 07, 2023, 04:56:14 AM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 02, 2024, 07:23:05 AM
Quote from: grumbler on October 01, 2024, 04:12:44 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on October 01, 2024, 04:03:40 PMIran is claiming 90% of their missiles struck their targets.

If their targets were Israeli and US SAMs, they may be right.

The Iranians are clever, they don't pick out their targets until after the missile lands.

Basketball isn't a big sport in Iran so they may not know that they have to call the bank shot before they take it.

Valmy

The skilled aim for the bullseye. The wise just draw a bullseye wherever their arrow lands.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

Here is a really weird story: A Yazidi woman captured by ISIS ten years ago was rescued in Gaza.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/yazidi-woman-freed-from-gaza-in-us-led-operation-after-decade-in-captivity/ar-AA1rEdpx?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=e6d6b3934e72430a9f5dae7cad4c5f1e&ei=17

QuoteBy Timour Azhari

BEIRUT (Reuters) -A 21-year-old woman kidnapped by Islamic State militants in Iraq more than a decade ago was freed from Gaza this week in an operation involving the United States and Israel, officials said.

The rescue also involved Jordan and Iraq, according to officials.

The woman is a member of the ancient Yazidi religious minority mostly found in Iraq and Syria which saw more than 5,000 members killed and thousands more kidnapped in an IS campaign in 2014 that the U.N. has said constituted genocide.

She was freed after more than four months of efforts that involved several attempts that failed due to the difficult security situation resulting from Israel's military offensive in Gaza, Silwan Sinjaree, chief of staff of Iraq's foreign minister, told Reuters.

She has been identified as Fawzia Sido. Reuters could not reach the woman directly for comment.

Iraqi officials had been in contact with the woman for months and passed on her information to U.S. officials, who arranged for her exit from Gaza with the help of Israel, according to a source familiar with the matter.

The Israeli military said it had coordinated with the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem and "other international actors" in the operation to free Sido.

It said in a statement her captor had been killed during the Gaza war, presumably by an Israeli strike, and she then fled to a hideout inside the Gaza Strip.

"In a complex operation coordinated between Israel, the United States, and other international actors, she was recently rescued in a secret mission from the Gaza Strip through the Kerem Shalom Crossing," it said.

After entering Israel, she continued on to Jordan through the Allenby Bridge Crossing and from there returned to her family in Iraq, the military said.

A State Department spokesperson said the United States on Tuesday "helped to safely evacuate from Gaza a young Yezidi woman to be reunited with her family in Iraq".

The spokesperson said she was kidnapped from her home in Iraq aged 11 and sold and trafficked to Gaza. Her captor was recently killed, allowing her to escape and seek repatriation, the spokesperson said.

RAUMATIZED

Sinjaree said she was in good physical condition but was traumatized by her time in captivity and by the dire humanitarian situation in Gaza. She had since been reunited with family in northern Iraq, he added.

Iraqi Prime Minister Mohammed Shia al-Sudani had directly followed up on the issue with U.S. officials on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly in New York last month, according to Khalaf Sinjar, Sudani's advisor for Yazidi affairs.

More than 6,000 Yazidis were captured by Islamic State militants from Sinjar region in Iraq in 2014, with many sold into sexual slavery or trained as child soldiers and taken across borders, including to Turkey and Syria.

Over the years, more than 3,500 have been rescued or freed, according to Iraqi authorities, with some 2,600 still missing.

Many are feared dead but Yazidi activists say they believe hundreds are still alive.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Tamas

And her captor is on the list of civilian casualties somewhere.

OttoVonBismarck

Just know that the vast majority of Gazans are cool with that behavior, many are complicit. Man, woman, child. The only truly innocent are kids under 10-12 years old but even some in that age range are already irredeemably evil monsters.

viper37

Quote from: Tamas on October 03, 2024, 02:58:10 PMAnd her captor is on the list of civilian casualties somewhere.
Despicable people.  They are unredeamable.  They should all be killed and buried under tons of rubble, as Otto suggested.  Maybe a few under 10-12 years olds are innocents.

Not to talk of these monsters, living south of me. There again, only a few can be judged innocent.  Maybe around Austin, even though they have strange tastes in hockey matters.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

OttoVonBismarck

Keep talking kid, when Trump is back he will set the Gazans straight and we won't have to hear this bullshit any longer.

Valmy

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on October 03, 2024, 05:46:31 PMKeep talking kid, when Trump is back he will set the Gazans straight and we won't have to hear this bullshit any longer.

Yes. Once the ethnic cleansing and genocide are complete nobody will ever talk about this again and it will cease to be a problem.

For a guy who is supposedly against blood and soil nationalism you sure love their deluded ideas and solutions.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

And of course Donald Trump will do absolutely nothing one way or the other to set Gaza or anything else straight. You know this, not sure why you are pretending otherwise.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Grey Fox

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on October 03, 2024, 05:46:31 PMKeep talking kid, when Trump is back he will set the Gazans straight and we won't have to hear this bullshit any longer.

How is he going to achieve any of that while playing golf in Florida? You seem to forget that he's a deeply lazy old man.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

viper37

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on October 03, 2024, 05:46:31 PMKeep talking kid, when Trump is back he will set the Gazans straight and we won't have to hear this bullshit any longer.
From the river to the sea, Israel will be free?
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on October 03, 2024, 05:46:31 PMKeep talking kid, when Trump is back he will set the Gazans straight and we won't have to hear this bullshit any longer.

Now that's good comedy.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

The Minsky Moment

We all have fond memories of Trump's "tough" policy in the Middle East.  He really smacked the bad guys hard. The bad guys being those horrible mean Kurds.  Who were . . . maybe the good guys,?  Our allies?  But allies are really enemies, bunch of no good moochers who take good American dollars and give us nothing in return. At least nothing if you don't include vanquishing ISIS. 

But it all worked out well.  He kept Erdogan happy and Erdogan helped out America in return. By which I mean he helped out an American in return, a completely random American who happens to license his name to a commercial building in Istanbul. The rest of America, not so much but it was still a great great great bigly deal for America(n)

Yes I'm sure everything will work out just fine in Gaza.  Just make sure no one from Hamas gets on the phone with him and mentions beachfront access.

The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

grumbler

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 03, 2024, 11:51:25 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on October 03, 2024, 05:46:31 PMKeep talking kid, when Trump is back he will set the Gazans straight and we won't have to hear this bullshit any longer.

Now that's good comedy.


Or bad trolling.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

The Minsky Moment

Hamas will feel the full force of Trump's awesome deal-making power, just as North Korea found out to its woe. They will be forced to attend a summit where nice things will be said about them by confused people, to view videos about American capitalism, and to accept love letters from Trump. After a few days of such horrific treatment, they will be begging for mercy.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson