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https://thehill.com/homenews/531485-pennsylvania-lieutenant-governor-says-texas-counterpart-owes-him-bounty-money-after

QuotePennsylvania lt. gov. says Texas counterpart owes him bounty money after state uncovers voter fraud cases

Pennsylvania's lieutenant governor is claiming that Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) owes his state money after law enforcement officials in Pennsylvania uncovered isolated instances of voter fraud in recent weeks.

"Recap: Texas sued PA claiming mass voter fraud to SCOTUS," Lt. Gov. John Fetterman (D) tweeted on Wednesday. "Sure, TX got demolished, but my dude LG Dan Patrick put out a handsome reward for voter fraud. We delivered. He owes us $3M, Pennsylvania. That's *a lot* of Shmuffins + Sizlis, folks."

A week after the Nov. 3 election, Patrick offered up to $1 million to anyone who could provide proof of voter fraud anywhere around the country.

"I support President Trump's efforts to identify voter fraud in the presidential election and his commitment to making sure that every legal vote is counted and every illegal vote is disqualified," Patrick said in a statement at the time. "President Trump's pursuit of voter fraud is not only essential to determine the outcome of this election, it is essential to maintain our democracy and restore faith in future elections."

QuoteRecap: Texas sued PA claiming mass voter fraud to SCOTUS.

Sure, TX got demolished, but my dude LG Dan Patrick put out a handsome reward for voter fraud.

We delivered.

He owes us $3M, Pennsylvania.

That's *a lot* of Shmuffins + Sizlis, folks.https://t.co/H6Ts3UNTEe

— John Fetterman (@JohnFetterman) December 23, 2020

State officials in Pennsylvania have in recent weeks uncovered at least three instances of voter fraud, two of which involved cases of citizens casting multiple ballots for President Trump.

In a statement to the Houston Chronicle, a spokesperson for Patrick responded to Fetterman's tweets, saying: "It is not clear why Lt. Gov. Fetterman continues on this topic since Democrats don't believe in voter fraud, unless it's Russia."

Trump and his allies have alleged that widespread voter fraud led to a "rigged" election against him. Judges have dismissed several lawsuits in key battleground states, including Pennsylvania, brought forth by the Trump campaign contesting the election's result.

Pennsylvania was also on a list of battleground states Texas sued earlier this month for what it alleged was a failure to abide by the Constitution as it relates to holding free and fair elections. The Supreme Court rejected that case on Dec. 11.

"Also, if I'm forced to sue my colleague to claim my handsome reward, my case is exponentially stronger than that pile of hot garbage lawsuit TX tried with SCOTUS," Fetterman said.

:lol:
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Valmy

I like how Patrick takes zero responsibility for his own personal actions but tries to hold Fetterman accountable for the actions of all Democrats. What a fucking worthless asshole.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Admiral Yi

Is the reward legally enforceable?  I think I read somewhere that purely verbal commitments are not legally binding above some dollar amount.

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Valmy on December 24, 2020, 02:30:21 PM
I like how Patrick takes zero responsibility for his own personal actions but tries to hold Fetterman accountable for the actions of all Democrats. What a fucking worthless asshole.
Yeah, I'm thinking that is a requirement to be in today's GOP leadership. 
PDH!

Razgovory

It seems that one of the affiants claiming to been an intelligence specialist is just some loopy blogger.

QuoteAs she asked the U.S. Supreme Court this month to overturn President Trump's election loss, the attorney Sidney Powell cited testimony from a secret witness presented as a former intelligence contractor with insights on a foreign conspiracy to subvert democracy.

Powell told courts that the witness is an expert who could show that overseas corporations helped shift votes to President-elect Joe Biden. The witness's identity must be concealed from the public, Powell has said, to protect her "reputation, professional career and personal safety."

The Washington Post identified the witness by determining that portions of her affidavit match, sometimes verbatim, a blog post that the pro-Trump podcaster Terpsichore Maras-Lindeman published in November 2019. In an interview, Maras-Lindeman confirmed that she wrote the affidavit and said she viewed it as her contribution to a fight against the theft of the election.

This is everybody's duty," she said. "It's just not fair."

In a recent civil fraud case, attorneys for the state of North Dakota said that Maras-Lindeman falsely claimed to be a medical doctor and to have both a PhD and an MBA. They said she used multiple aliases and social security numbers and created exaggerated online résumés as part of what they called "a persistent effort . . . to deceive others."

Powell's reliance on Maras-Lindeman's testimony may raise further questions about her judgment and the strength of her arguments at a time when she is becoming an increasingly influential adviser to the president. Trump's legal team distanced itself from Powell last month after she falsely claimed Republican state officials took bribes to rig the election. But she has visited the White House three times in the past week, once to participate in an Oval Office meeting. Trump has weighed naming Powell a special counsel to investigate the election, according to previous reports.

Maras-Lindeman, 42, served in the Navy for less than a year more than two decades ago and has said she worked later as a government contractor and part-time interpreter. She has identified herself as a "trained cryptolinguist."

North Dakota's assertions about her credentials came in a civil case brought by the state's attorney general in 2018 over a purported charitable event she tried to organize in Minot, N.D., where she and her family resided. Attorneys for the state said she used money she collected — ostensibly to fund homeless shelters and wreaths for veterans' graves — on purchases for herself at McDonald's, QVC and elsewhere.

A judge ultimately found that Maras-Lindeman violated consumer protection laws by, among other things, misspending money she raised and soliciting donations while misrepresenting her experience and education. He ordered her to pay more than $25,000.

Maras-Lindeman has appealed to the state Supreme Court. In court filings and in her interview with The Post, she denied mishandling the funds or misleading donors. She blamed identity theft and bureaucratic failings for a proliferation of variations on her name and social security numbers associated with her.

Maras-Lindeman also claimed that she was targeted by the state for political reasons, noting that around that time she was exploring running for mayor of Minot — under the slogan "Make Minot Great Again." She said that in 2018 she assisted the campaign of David C. Thompson, the Democratic challenger to longtime Attorney General Wayne Stenehjem (R). Thompson is now Maras-Lindeman's defense attorney.

Thompson said in an interview that the case was a "vindictive exercise" and was excessive given the relatively small amounts of money in question. "They took a missile to kill a fly," he said.

In an interview, Stenehjem — who signed a brief this month asking the Supreme Court to take up a case that sought to overturn the election — dismissed the claim that his investigation was politically motivated and said that anyone working with Maras-Lindeman should "back away" from her.

In a text message, Powell did not directly address questions about Maras-Lindeman's fraud case and credentials. "I don't have the same information you do," she wrote to The Post.

Powell's lawsuits — litigation she has referred to as "the kraken," after a Scandinavian mythological sea monster — rely in key respects on a handful of anonymous expert witnesses. Among them is a purported military intelligence expert identified in court filings as "Spyder." The Post reported this month that the witness is an I.T. consultant named Joshua Merritt who has never worked in military intelligence. Rather, Merritt spent the bulk of his decade in the Army as a wheeled-vehicle mechanic.

Like Merritt, Maras-Lindeman told The Post she had never spoken directly to Powell or anyone working on her legal team. She said she distributed the affidavit widely to like-minded people and was unaware it had come to Powell's attention until it appeared as an exhibit in one of her cases.

Maras-Lindeman's 37-page affidavit outlines a purported conspiracy by the Canadian company Dominion Voting Systems, which sells voting machines used in some states, and Scytl, a Spain-based firm that provides election software. She claims that votes cast on Dominion machines in key states were hacked as they passed through Scytl tallying systems and rigged in favor of Biden.

"The vote is not safe using these machines not only because of the method used for ballot 'cleansing' to maintain anonymity but the EXPOSURE to foreign interference and possible domestic bad actors," she writes in the affidavit.

Like Trump and many of his supporters, Maras-Lindeman points to election night spikes in Biden's vote totals — explained by officials as merely the result of densely populated areas reporting their counts — as evidence of a "digital fix" involving abrupt dumps of bogus votes.

In a statement last month, Dominion described allegations leveled against it by Powell and other Trump supporters as "baseless, senseless, physically impossible, and unsupported by any evidence whatsoever." Scytl said in a statement that it "does NOT tabulate, tally or count votes in US public elections," had no relationship with Dominion, and that its U.S. operations are run by a Tampa-based subsidiary.

Last week, Dominion said it had written to Powell to demand that she retract what the company said were defamatory accusations.

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Federal judges have rejected all four of the complaints Powell has filed, two of which — in Wisconsin and Arizona — included Maras-Lindeman's affidavit.

In Wisconsin, a federal judge ruled that Powell's request that the results of the election be overturned is "outside the limits" of the court's power. Attorneys for Gov. Tony Evers (D), in seeking the dismissal, said the complaint was "rampant with wild speculation and conspiratorial conclusions, and simply without any basis in law or fact."

A federal judge in Arizona wrote that allegations "that find favor in the public sphere of gossip and innuendo cannot be a substitute for earnest pleadings and procedure in federal court" and "most certainly cannot be the basis for upending Arizona's 2020 General Election."

Powell has appealed the cases to the U.S. Supreme Court, where she is seeking to have them consolidated.

Maras-Lindeman, who goes by Tore (pronounced "Tory"), spent recent weeks in Washington with a group of fellow Trump supporters working to bolster Powell's legal campaign, according to social media posts and statements on her podcast, "Tore Says." The group included Millie Weaver, a former correspondent for the far-right website Infowars, who released a documentary over the summer — "Shadowgate" — that helped propel Maras-Lindeman to prominence among conspiracy theorists on the right.

Maras-Lindeman told her listeners on Dec. 7 that she was speaking from "the belly of the beast" and that a group of Trump loyalists was working to take action against those who had stolen the president's victory.

"There are really good people — patriots — gathered, working hard to ensure that they not only get to the bottom of what happened during this election . . . but they're also seeking to prosecute," she said.

Maras-Lindeman spent time at Trump's hotel in downtown Washington and interviewed Patrick Byrne, the millionaire Overstock.com founder and Trump backer who has said he is funding a team of "cybersleuths" to scrutinize the election. Byrne and Maras-Lindeman told The Post he is not funding her.

In past episodes, Maras-Lindeman has discussed conspiracy theories, including one that baselessly accused high-ranking Democrats of human trafficking centered at a D.C. pizzeria. In an episode last year, she said, "What we realize is that this Pizzagate stuff, this satanic constant abuse of children is an actual real thing."

Maras-Lindeman, who is of Greek heritage, joined the Navy in December 1996 and spent eight months training in Illinois and Florida as an airman recruit before departing the service in August 1997, according to a Navy record.

In their civil case, North Dakota state attorneys said that Maras-Lindeman created a profile on Together We Served, an online veteran community, that incorrectly depicted an extensive military career.

The profile, which is no longer online, said that Maras-Lindeman reached the rank of lieutenant, served in the combat zones of Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq, and in the Office of Naval Intelligence, and was awarded multiple medals including a Purple Heart.

In the interview, Maras-Lindeman denied creating the profile and said whoever did had misstated the details of her career. She previously posted to Twitter a purported copy of her Navy separation paperwork, which said that she specialized in communications and intelligence.

Neither the record provided to The Post nor the paperwork Maras-Lindeman posted online stated a reason for her departure, but the papers she posted said that the character of her discharge was "general (under honorable conditions)."

In response to questions about the nature of the discharge, a Navy spokesman referred to the Navy Military Personnel Manual. The manual said it means, "The quality of the member's service has been honest and faithful; however, significant negative aspects of the member's conduct or performance of duty outweighed positive aspects of the member's service record."

In her affidavit, Maras-Lindeman identifies herself as a former "private contractor with experience gathering and analyzing foreign intelligence" and says that from 1999 to 2014 she had responsibility for delegating tasks to other contractors working for the United States and allied nations. She stood by that account in her interview with The Post.

In a court filing in North Dakota last year, she wrote that she had worked as a contractor since 1996 and had been "a vendor with certain programs associated with USSOCOM," the U.S. Special Operations Command. A spokesman for the command said in an email that its contracting office could find no record of any contract with her.

She claimed in Weaver's documentary that, as an intelligence contractor, she carried out a notorious 2008 intrusion into the State Department's passport records on several presidential candidates. In a separate podcast interview, she said that she retrieved the records on direct orders from John O. Brennan, who then led a private security firm implicated in the incident and was later CIA director. "I went and got them," she said. "He told me to go get them."

A spokesman for Brennan said that Brennan had never heard of Maras-Lindeman.

Maras-Lindeman told The Post that, by its nature, her covert work could not be independently verified. "People like me don't exist," she said. "You just have to trust."

According to a LinkedIn profile that has since been deleted, between 1997 and 2014 Maras-Lindeman obtained eight academic degrees in the United States and the United Kingdom, along with additional professional qualifications. The attorneys in the fraud case said in court filings that they could find records of her earning only one degree, a bachelor's in biology from the University of Kentucky in 2011.

Maras-Lindeman told The Post someone else created the profile — despite claims to the contrary by state attorneys in the fraud case — and she declined to comment on its particulars.

After obtaining the degree, Maras-Lindeman and her family moved to Beaverton, Ore.

She took a voluntary job teaching Greek at Agia Sophia Academy, a private Greek Orthodox school in Beaverton. Her archived biography on the school's website used the title "Dr." and said she had a PhD. Attorneys for North Dakota later said in a court filing in the fraud case that Maras-Lindeman "is not a doctor and does not possess a PhD from any institution."

The school's principal, Christina Blankenstein, said in an email that the school could not vouch for Maras-Lindeman's professional record because her position was unpaid. Maras-Lindeman worked at the school for between a year and two years, Blankenstein said.

In the interview, Maras-Lindeman said the school must have misunderstood paperwork she gave them saying that she was a PhD candidate.

After she moved to North Dakota, Maras-Lindeman asserted in series of small claims court cases that she was a pediatric oncologist, attorneys for North Dakota said in a court filing. As recently as November 2017, a website for a purported cancer research organization named "ML Laboratories" referred to her as "Dr. Tore Maras-Lindeman" and said she was its founder.

Maras-Lindeman also used an email address and Twitter handle identifying herself as "Dr. Lindeman." She told The Post she reserved the accounts so they would be ready for her when she earned a doctoral degree.


It seems like there should be rule against trying to deceive the court with fake witnesses or just lifting blog posts written by random lunatics and con artists and putting them in an affidavit without bothering to confirm the basic facts.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 24, 2020, 02:43:32 PM
Is the reward legally enforceable?  I think I read somewhere that purely verbal commitments are not legally binding above some dollar amount.

There is no dollar amount limit on oral contracts, there are some other limitations.
In any event, Fetterman's point here is to troll not collect.
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Razgovory

Sidney Powell Thinks Georgia Senate Runoff May Be 'Rigged' to Favor GOP

https://www.newsweek.com/sidney-powell-thinks-georgia-senate-runoff-may-rigged-favor-gop-1557898


QuoteFormer Trump campaign attorney Sidney Powell on Tuesday claimed that Georgia election officials may have "rigged" the state's January 5 special runoff elections so that the state's Republican Senate incumbents will win.

During Powell's interview on The Rush Limbaugh Show, an interviewer asked her whether she thought Republicans should vote in the state's special election despite her belief that the state's presidential elections were rigged to provide an outcome for Democratic President-elect Joe Biden.

"Well, my concern is that it's not going to matter how the people vote in the Georgia race," Powell said. "It obviously didn't matter how they voted nationwide, did it?"

When the interviewer said that he wanted Republicans to vote in the upcoming special election "in incredible numbers" adding, "I want all eyes on this because we cannot hand the Senate to these people, Sydney."

Powell then responded.

"Well yeah, I mean the situation we're in now, I would suggest that everybody in Georgia turnout on Election Day, and do it again: Vote for the Republican candidates in mass numbers and see what happens," Powell said, adding, "And it might be that they've even rigged the system so that the two Republicans win so they can say, 'Oh see? There's no problem.'"

Republicans and Democrats alike are closely watching the special Senate race because it will determine party control of the U.S. Senate. The two races are between Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Jon Ossoff against Republican incumbent Senator David Purdue and a race between Democratic candidate Raphael Warnock and Republican incumbent Senator Kelly Loeffler.

Trump, his re-election campaign surrogates and his supporters have all criticized Georgia's Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and the state's Republican Governor Brian Kemp for declaring that Biden fairly won the state, thus contradicting Trump and his supporters' claims of widespread voter fraud.

While serving as an attorney for Trump's re-election campaign, Powell claimed in a November 19 press conference, that "massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba and likely China" had compelled Republican and Democratic lawmakers to rig the election.

The rigging, according to Powell, occurred by various Democratic and Republican candidates paying foreign governments to alter voting machines to switch Trump votes into Biden votes and to switch enough other votes to help other individual candidates to win their election races.

"We have no idea how many Republican or Democratic candidates in any state across the country, paid to have the system rigged to work for them," Powell said. Powell didn't present any evidence to back up her claims.

On November 21, Powell appeared on the right-wing conservative network Newsmax, claiming she had evidence that 7 million votes were fraudulently cast for Biden's benefit. She also accused Kemp and Raffensperger of accepting bribes to participate in the alleged vote-switching scheme.

By November 22, Trump's re-election campaign said that Powell no longer had a formal role as a campaign attorney.

Powell's claim of Kemp and Raffensperger's corruption have potentially undermined Republicans' chances in Georgia's runoffs as some Republicans wish to "punish" the local Republican party who helped validate Biden's victory. Others simply distrust the electoral process since Trump and his supporters claim it's been broken by massive fraud.



So it's rigged if a Republican wins and it's rigged if a Democrat wins.   :blink:
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Razgovory on December 31, 2020, 02:14:24 PM
Sidney Powell Thinks Georgia Senate Runoff May Be 'Rigged' to Favor GOP

https://www.newsweek.com/sidney-powell-thinks-georgia-senate-runoff-may-rigged-favor-gop-1557898


QuoteFormer Trump campaign attorney Sidney Powell on Tuesday claimed that Georgia election officials may have "rigged" the state's January 5 special runoff elections so that the state's Republican Senate incumbents will win.

During Powell's interview on The Rush Limbaugh Show, an interviewer asked her whether she thought Republicans should vote in the state's special election despite her belief that the state's presidential elections were rigged to provide an outcome for Democratic President-elect Joe Biden.

"Well, my concern is that it's not going to matter how the people vote in the Georgia race," Powell said. "It obviously didn't matter how they voted nationwide, did it?"

When the interviewer said that he wanted Republicans to vote in the upcoming special election "in incredible numbers" adding, "I want all eyes on this because we cannot hand the Senate to these people, Sydney."

Powell then responded.

"Well yeah, I mean the situation we're in now, I would suggest that everybody in Georgia turnout on Election Day, and do it again: Vote for the Republican candidates in mass numbers and see what happens," Powell said, adding, "And it might be that they've even rigged the system so that the two Republicans win so they can say, 'Oh see? There's no problem.'"

Republicans and Democrats alike are closely watching the special Senate race because it will determine party control of the U.S. Senate. The two races are between Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Jon Ossoff against Republican incumbent Senator David Purdue and a race between Democratic candidate Raphael Warnock and Republican incumbent Senator Kelly Loeffler.

Trump, his re-election campaign surrogates and his supporters have all criticized Georgia's Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and the state's Republican Governor Brian Kemp for declaring that Biden fairly won the state, thus contradicting Trump and his supporters' claims of widespread voter fraud.

While serving as an attorney for Trump's re-election campaign, Powell claimed in a November 19 press conference, that "massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba and likely China" had compelled Republican and Democratic lawmakers to rig the election.

The rigging, according to Powell, occurred by various Democratic and Republican candidates paying foreign governments to alter voting machines to switch Trump votes into Biden votes and to switch enough other votes to help other individual candidates to win their election races.

"We have no idea how many Republican or Democratic candidates in any state across the country, paid to have the system rigged to work for them," Powell said. Powell didn't present any evidence to back up her claims.

On November 21, Powell appeared on the right-wing conservative network Newsmax, claiming she had evidence that 7 million votes were fraudulently cast for Biden's benefit. She also accused Kemp and Raffensperger of accepting bribes to participate in the alleged vote-switching scheme.

By November 22, Trump's re-election campaign said that Powell no longer had a formal role as a campaign attorney.

Powell's claim of Kemp and Raffensperger's corruption have potentially undermined Republicans' chances in Georgia's runoffs as some Republicans wish to "punish" the local Republican party who helped validate Biden's victory. Others simply distrust the electoral process since Trump and his supporters claim it's been broken by massive fraud.



So it's rigged if a Republican wins and it's rigged if a Democrat wins.   :blink:
Well yes.  If Trump had won it would have been despite it beign fixed. When he lost it was only because it was.

Its about a plucky band of freedom fighters who alone, amongst the sheep and the Satanists have the moral courage to TELL IT LIKE IT IS and the guts to face the demons and tell them to GTFO of my country.  Queue patriotic montage.
PDH!

Admiral Yi

She's saying something different.  She's saying they might rig a Republican win in Georgia so that people will believe the presidential race was not rigged.

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 31, 2020, 02:56:14 PM
She's saying something different.  She's saying they might rig a Republican win in Georgia so that people will believe the presidential race was not rigged.


Yes, but Democrats can only win if it's rigged.  So no matter who wins it is rigged.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

grumbler

If the Democrats win, it's proof that the Democrats rigged the election.  If the Republicans win, that's also proof that the Democrats rigged the election.  The logic is indisputable, and fact that Sidney Powell claims that she has the evidence is proof that she does.

I'm still waiting for her to demonstrate that, if the results split, that's proof that the Democrats rigged the election. 
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: grumbler on December 31, 2020, 04:27:52 PM
If the Democrats win, it's proof that the Democrats rigged the election.  If the Republicans win, that's also proof that the Democrats rigged the election.  The logic is indisputable, and fact that Sidney Powell claims that she has the evidence is proof that she does.

I'm still waiting for her to demonstrate that, if the results split, that's proof that the Democrats rigged the election. 
Well that makes it even more likely that it was rigged. They wanted to make it look good, but they wanted to get at least one seat.   
PDH!

Razgovory

This woman was a federal prosecutor.  Was she always this crazy?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 31, 2020, 02:56:14 PM
She's saying something different.  She's saying they might rig a Republican win in Georgia so that people will believe the presidential race was not rigged.

"They" being ?
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson