40th Anniversary of the start of the Moon Landing Hoax

[Razgovory]

I-see-BMs, etc?

That's really more of a german thing you know.

[saskganesh]

not to mention the people every other space program (Russia, Japan and so on ) who have independently verified the missions.

2008 Japanese lunar probe (a big picture):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Apollo_15_with_lunar_rover.jpg

This picture is a picture of the Apollo 15 rover, not the "2008 Japanese lunar probe" (and if this was meant to be Selene, that was 2007, not 2008.  I don't think the Japanese had a 2008 mission).

yes. thats a picture of Apollo 15 as the image file name clearly suggests. it is a picture taken by the japanese lunar probe Selene, which was launched in 2007, orbited the moon through 2008, and was crashed on the surface in 2009.

I posted that picture as an example of independent verification.

[Malthus]

not to mention the people every other space program (Russia, Japan and so on ) who have independently verified the missions.

2008 Japanese lunar probe (a big picture):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Apollo_15_with_lunar_rover.jpg

This picture is a picture of the Apollo 15 rover, not the "2008 Japanese lunar probe" (and if this was meant to be Selene, that was 2007, not 2008.  I don't think the Japanese had a 2008 mission).

yes. thats a picture of Apollo 15 as the image file name clearly suggests. it is a picture taken by the japanese lunar probe Selene, which was launched in 2007, orbited the moon through 2008, and was crashed on the surface in 2009.

I posted that picture as an example of independent verification.

I'm a bit confused. The pic appears to have a guy in a spacesuit in it.

[PRC]

There is an astronaut in the picture.

[grumbler]

yes. thats a picture of Apollo 15 as the image file name clearly suggests. it is a picture taken by the japanese lunar probe Selene, which was launched in 2007, orbited the moon through 2008, and was crashed on the surface in 2009.

I posted that picture as an example of independent verification.

I am pretty sure that is a contemporary picture.  And a composite, at that.

[grumbler]

Here is an actual Selene picture of the Apollo 15 site, showing the white dust thrown up by the lander when it came down.  Even NASA doesn't show the picture you claim is from Selene in their "finding Apollo" site.

[Sheilbh]

Yep. So how come so very many people are so amazingly dumb over this? I could understand a small percentage of people, the clinically cynical or such, but not such large numbers. Maybe the dumbing down of society is more widespread than it's feared to be.   

Maybe not why but when.  I suspect if you asked how many people think Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK you'd get a pretty low number, it's probably the same for Bobby and Martin Luther King.  Maybe conspiracies are like religion and the old ones are the best.  I think a lot of it could be down to TV programmes that tell the TRUTH about moon/JFK and while they debunk everything they spend about 2 minutes debunking and 15 minutes setting up each individual reason why it didn't happen the way people think.

What I find odd is that people who are truthers tend to be very X-files in their general view of the world.  Everything is a conspiracy.  Whereas otherwise normal people can doubt the moon-landings or JFK's assasination while not actually thinking that there is necessarily a giant conspiracy behind it all.  I think they've got more to do with Jacko conspiracy theorists than the truthers.

[Siege]

What I find odd is that people who are truthers tend to be very X-files in their general view of the world.  Everything is a conspiracy.  Whereas otherwise normal people can doubt the moon-landings or JFK's assasination while not actually thinking that there is necessarily a giant conspiracy behind it all.  I think they've got more to do with Jacko conspiracy theorists than the truthers.

You are wrong. The few people I know in real life that don't believe in the landings don't believe any other conspiracy.

I myself am a good example of this. I am a perfectly rational and normal person. I definitively don't believe in conspiracies wholesale, and I am convinced that the moon landings were a very succesful CIA operation.

[Sheilbh]

You are wrong. The few people I know in real life that don't believe in the landings don't believe any other conspiracy.

That's what I said

[Darth Wagtaros]

What I find odd is that people who are truthers tend to be very X-files in their general view of the world.  Everything is a conspiracy.  Whereas otherwise normal people can doubt the moon-landings or JFK's assasination while not actually thinking that there is necessarily a giant conspiracy behind it all.  I think they've got more to do with Jacko conspiracy theorists than the truthers.

You are wrong. The few people I know in real life that don't believe in the landings don't believe any other conspiracy.

I myself am a good example of this. I am a perfectly rational and normal person. I definitively don't believe in conspiracies wholesale, and I am convinced that the moon landings were a very succesful CIA operation.

I believe it was an NSA op using the CIA as cover.

[Siege]

You are wrong. The few people I know in real life that don't believe in the landings don't believe any other conspiracy.

That's what I said

No is not.

[Valmy]

I believe it was an NSA op using the CIA as cover.

I am pretty sure it was the EPA.

[Caliga]

I am a perfectly rational and normal person.

[Syt]

[Neil]

You are wrong. The few people I know in real life that don't believe in the landings don't believe any other conspiracy.

I myself am a good example of this. I am a perfectly rational and normal person. I definitively don't believe in conspiracies wholesale, and I am convinced that the moon landings were a very succesful CIA operation.

You're not normal or rational.  You're an Arab.