When Did Things Go To Pot?

[mongers]

Assuming some of us share this feeling,

When did things go to pot and why?

I'll avoid the obvious Jan 2016 and instead go for 1990.

My reasoning, sorting through a pile of old gig tickets, I was struck by that year concerts seemed to start costing more than a tenner!
:gasp:

Before in the 80s gigs were cheap, for instance Rush for little more than five.

So what's you're preferred watershed?

Maybe parents shouldn't reply in this thread. 

[celedhring]

2011 was the first time I experimented true financial hardship in all my life, so on a personal level it's definitely that.

[Syt]

September 2001.

[Eddie Teach]

1963.

[Josquius]

1776?

[The Brain]

Diet of Worms.

[Iormlund]

2011 was the first time I experimented true financial hardship in all my life, so on a personal level it's definitely that.

The roots of those troubles go way back though. As far back as Aznar's zoning reforms.

[crazy canuck]

September 2001.

yep

[dps]

3 November 1992.

[Savonarola]

Say not thou, What is the cause that the former days were better than these? for thou dost not enquire wisely concerning this.
-Ecclesiastes 7:10 KJV



In my opinion the present day is the result of two different events; the rise of the internet and the banking crisis (and subsequent recession.)  The internet created a number of new business opportunities; but devastated a number of existing industries.  In a lot of ways this is similar to the first Industrial Revolution; we have a group of super-wealthy businessmen with undue influence in the government; and we have a government which doesn't understand the new technologies and doesn't have a good way to regulate them.  The problems arising from the internet have been compounded because one of the industries that it altered profoundly is journalism which is a cornerstone of democracy.

The banking crisis created a long period of slow job growth and economic pressure on the working class.  At the same time they didn't have the satisfaction of seeing the people who caused the crisis sent to jail.  It's given a number of people the perception of a broken system which protects the wealthy and punishes the poor.

That being said, I'm with Kohelet.  We're in a period of transition, like the Gilded Age or the Depression.  Radical voices are making sense to some right now (as they did in the those other periods) but they won't forever.

[Josquius]

Say not thou, What is the cause that the former days were better than these? for thou dost not enquire wisely concerning this.
-Ecclesiastes 7:10 KJV



In my opinion the present day is the result of two different events; the rise of the internet and the banking crisis (and subsequent recession.)  The internet created a number of new business opportunities; but devastated a number of existing industries.  In a lot of ways this is similar to the first Industrial Revolution; we have a group of super-wealthy businessmen with undue influence in the government; and we have a government which doesn't understand the new technologies and doesn't have a good way to regulate them.  The problems arising from the internet have been compounded because one of the industries that it altered profoundly is journalism which is a cornerstone of democracy.

The banking crisis created a long period of slow job growth and economic pressure on the working class.  At the same time they didn't have the satisfaction of seeing the people who caused the crisis sent to jail.  It's given a number of people the perception of a broken system which protects the wealthy and punishes the poor.

That being said, I'm with Kohelet.  We're in a period of transition, like the Gilded Age or the Depression.  Radical voices are making sense to some right now (as they did in the those other periods) but they won't forever.

But how much damage will they do in the meanwhile.
The US is weathering it pretty well. The UK however....

[Zoupa]

There's no specific date. It's always been a shit sandwich.

[dps]

There's no specific date. It's always been a shit sandwich.

I had assumed Mongers was talking about the Anglo-American part of the world, not France.

[Zoupa]

There's no specific date. It's always been a shit sandwich.

I had assumed Mongers was talking about the Anglo-American part of the world, not France.

*rimshot*

[dps]

Thank you for the sound effect.