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Elon Musk: Always A Douche

Started by garbon, July 15, 2018, 07:01:42 PM

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The Minsky Moment

I'll say this for Elon, living in that nanometer thin glass house doesn't deter him in the least from throwing concrete blocks around.
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Jacob

Looks like Finnish and Norwegian unions are joining the blockade against Tesla at this point. Not sure how big the impact is going to be.

Tamas

So apparently Musk's "AI", Grok (lol) scored pretty liberal left on a political spectrum test, even more so than ChatGPT, so Musk has vowed to rectify this and push it to the centre.

Now, what if these algorithms tend toward liberal leftish opinions because those are objectively superior? :P

Tonitrus

So AI is going to pick up the "Balls of Light" mantle left on the floor by the Europeans?  :P

grumbler

Quote from: Tonitrus on December 09, 2023, 10:25:14 AMSo AI is going to pick up the "Balls of Light" mantle left on the floor by the Europeans?  :P

 :D
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Josquius

Quote from: Tamas on December 09, 2023, 09:32:14 AMSo apparently Musk's "AI", Grok (lol) scored pretty liberal left on a political spectrum test, even more so than ChatGPT, so Musk has vowed to rectify this and push it to the centre.

Now, what if these algorithms tend toward liberal leftish opinions because those are objectively superior? :P

Centre-centre or Musk's warped ideas where even Reagen is a centrist?

And yes. In this age of Trumpy conspiracy nonsense in America at least we certainly are at a stage where one side so clearly holds dominion over truth.
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HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Josquius on December 11, 2023, 11:16:36 AM
Quote from: Tamas on December 09, 2023, 09:32:14 AMSo apparently Musk's "AI", Grok (lol) scored pretty liberal left on a political spectrum test, even more so than ChatGPT, so Musk has vowed to rectify this and push it to the centre.

Now, what if these algorithms tend toward liberal leftish opinions because those are objectively superior? :P

Centre-centre or Musk's warped ideas where even Reagen is a centrist?

The AI kept saying Hitler had no good ideas. Clearly it's infected by woke.
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The Minsky Moment

There have been many historical cases of chatbots that had to be pulled for making racist and other offensive commentary.  I presume that if one wants to avoid that outcome, then certain design steps have to be taken to allow the AI to avoid that kind of discourse.  At that point, one or both of the following two conclusions follow, depending on one's view of the present day Right: (1) Whatever steps taken to ensure that the AI reliably avoids racism also tends of push it into other left-adjacent viewpoints; (2) the present day right wing has become so enmeshed in racist and misogynistic discourse that a non-racist AI comes across as left of center.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

OttoVonBismarck

It looks like the Swedish ruling that required them to issue plates was overturned by a higher court, as I understand it this means they are back to Teslas not being able to acquire valid Swedish plates at the moment.


Zoupa

Musk decided to reinstate Alex Jones. I'm sure what few advertisers remain will love that.

HVC

Fighting with Taylor Swift too, apparently.  Gotta say he's got a unique rouges gallery.
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Jacob

Quote from: crazy canuck on December 11, 2023, 01:38:57 PMLink to an explanation of the decision?

Here's the release from the Swedish court in question. It's in Swedish, but Google translate does a decent job: https://www.domstol.se/nyheter/2023/12/avslag-pa-teslas-yrkande-om-interimistiska-sakerhetsatgarder-mot-postnord/

crazy canuck

Thanks, that sounds like a decision related to another application for a pre-trial mandatory injunction, rather than an appeal of the first injunction decision.

As noted before, there are two parallel proceedings going on.  This sounds like it is a decision in the second proceeding. 

Can someone familiar with Swedish law provide an explanation of what is happening?

Jacob

How's it going with Musk's "thermonuclear" suit against Media Matters?

It appears the CBC has made a similar investigation and followed up with a number of major companies who've then suspended their Twitter advertising spends. I wonder if Musk is going to sue the CBC also? And if he doesn't, whether the CBC actions are likely to impact the Media Matters suit.

B'nai Brith (a Jewish advocay group) has decided to stay on Twitter, in spite of their adds appearing on the feed of Richard Spencer (famous for leading chants of "Jews will not replace us" in public marches).

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