UK Parliamentary General Election 8th June 2017

[Duque de Bragança]

I prefer the term "well-off" or "comfortable"  for people on that sort of income. Rich is more of a substantial house in London, place in the country, all children sent to public schools sort of thing. You need a lot more than £70k for that sort of thing.

This reminds me, I'll need to read up on definitions of schools over here. I'd have thought "public" schools are the state-run ones, not private schools.

You were thinking of state(-funded) schools. 

[garbon]

I prefer the term "well-off" or "comfortable"  for people on that sort of income. Rich is more of a substantial house in London, place in the country, all children sent to public schools sort of thing. You need a lot more than £70k for that sort of thing.

I guess it depends on policy aims? Given the context, I suppose it could make sense to label top 5% of UK earners as rich?

[Richard Hakluyt]

Why would you think something ridiculous like that?

Indeed, chap has been here for ages and still can't get the basics right 

They are called public schools because they are open to members of the public (who have to pay fees). The state-run schools are called state schools. A private school might be a religious one, once again you pay fees but would have to be CofE or Catholic or whatever.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I prefer the term "well-off" or "comfortable"  for people on that sort of income. Rich is more of a substantial house in London, place in the country, all children sent to public schools sort of thing. You need a lot more than £70k for that sort of thing.

I guess it depends on policy aims? Given the context, I suppose it could make sense to label top 5% of UK earners as rich?

I would imagine that a lot of people on that sort of money might only be getting it for a few years towards the end of their careers. A senior teacher for example, or a senior nurse. My point being that a lot more than 5% of the population will spend part of their time in the 5% group. These people will also generally be entering the labour force later and will usually have to pay their university fees back (at least as time goes by and more have had to take out loans). They already pay the higher rate of income tax on a substantial proportion of their income, I wonder how far the left-wing of the Labour party would like to go? Possibly into the territory we were in back in the 1970s where it didn't really make sense to bother.

[garbon]

I prefer the term "well-off" or "comfortable"  for people on that sort of income. Rich is more of a substantial house in London, place in the country, all children sent to public schools sort of thing. You need a lot more than £70k for that sort of thing.

I guess it depends on policy aims? Given the context, I suppose it could make sense to label top 5% of UK earners as rich?

I would imagine that a lot of people on that sort of money might only be getting it for a few years towards the end of their careers. A senior teacher for example, or a senior nurse. My point being that a lot more than 5% of the population will spend part of their time in the 5% group. These people will also generally be entering the labour force later and will usually have to pay their university fees back (at least as time goes by and more have had to take out loans). They already pay the higher rate of income tax on a substantial proportion of their income, I wonder how far the left-wing of the Labour party would like to go? Possibly into the territory we were in back in the 1970s where it didn't really make sense to bother.

Well, thankfully as long as Corbyn Labour keeps at it, it'll all remain academic.

[Tamas]

I prefer the term "well-off" or "comfortable"  for people on that sort of income. Rich is more of a substantial house in London, place in the country, all children sent to public schools sort of thing. You need a lot more than £70k for that sort of thing.

I guess it depends on policy aims? Given the context, I suppose it could make sense to label top 5% of UK earners as rich?

I would imagine that a lot of people on that sort of money might only be getting it for a few years towards the end of their careers. A senior teacher for example, or a senior nurse. My point being that a lot more than 5% of the population will spend part of their time in the 5% group. These people will also generally be entering the labour force later and will usually have to pay their university fees back (at least as time goes by and more have had to take out loans). They already pay the higher rate of income tax on a substantial proportion of their income, I wonder how far the left-wing of the Labour party would like to go? Possibly into the territory we were in back in the 1970s where it didn't really make sense to bother.

Stop finding excuses for the 1%, RH!

[Josquius]

I would agree that 70k is well off rather than rich.
Makes you very very comfortable indeed in some parts of the country but not really in London.

[frunk]

Stop finding excuses for the 1%, RH!

I'd be very impressed if a nurse or teacher made it to the 1% even at the end of their career.

[Jacob]

The Tories do have a commanding lead in the polls, but I suspect that their vote is soft. If another party manages to present a worthwhile alternative a lot of Tory votes could evaporate. We saw the SNP do this to Labour in Scotland last time round. Which underlines what a disaster Corbyn is I suppose 

That's a hell of an "if"

I would've expected the second line to be "and I just ordered more falafel. Looks good pretty good, yeah?"

[Tamas]

Stop finding excuses for the 1%, RH!

I'd be very impressed if a nurse or teacher made it to the 1% even at the end of their career.

[frunk]

Stop finding excuses for the 1%, RH!

I'd be very impressed if a nurse or teacher made it to the 1% even at the end of their career.

Judging by the name of the broken image it's something about sarcasm.  I know you are being sarcastic, but I guess I'm not sure what the point of your sarcasm is.

[Tamas]

That socialism is bad, mkay?

[frunk]

That socialism is bad, mkay?

Just about every country on earth has some socialist or progressive elements designed to help those with less money, so I guess they are all bad.

[CountDeMoney]

Just about every country on earth has some socialist or progressive elements designed to help those with less money, so I guess they are all bad.

Well, as we've been seeing, that shit is coming to an abrupt fucking halt everywhere.

[Zanza]

What other issues besides Brexit and the personality of Jeremy Corbyn are at stake?