What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[HVC]

Don't Tesla's batteries come from China? So he'd be hurt just as bad.

[Zanza]

Don't Tesla's batteries come from China? So he'd be hurt just as bad.

The batteries are built in Nevada, not sure about the cells, some there too, maybe all? The lithium itself almost certainly comes via China. Tesla used to import full vehicles, but that's obviously not viable with Biden's 100% tax on Chinese made BEV cars.

So far China has not retalitated on that, but there are already car makers moving production from the US to China to de-risk the opposite direction.

[HVC]

Thanks for the clarification. Xi should tax Tesla's just for shits and giggles.

[Zanza]

The Teslas sold in China are made there.

[HVC]

The Teslas sold in China are made there.

It's a totalitarian state, I'm sure they could find a way

[crazy canuck]

Interesting response in Canada to Trumps demand for better border security.  The provinces met with the Feds yesterday and told the Feds, yeah Trump is right. We have been asking for more resources on the border for years.

[celedhring]

Didn't register to me that the Canada-US border was problematic. I mean, it's obviously a very long and hard to police border, but wouldn't have thought it was a significant route for migrants seeking to enter the US illegaly.

[crazy canuck]

Relative to Mexico, it's not.  But it has gone up a lot over the last few years. 

[Norgy]

Didn't register to me that the Canada-US border was problematic. I mean, it's obviously a very long and hard to police border, but wouldn't have thought it was a significant route for migrants seeking to enter the US illegaly.

The border police just check if they say "about" or "aboot". Easy.

[crazy canuck]

And here is the story in the Globe about the quick response from the Federal government to increase spending on border security.

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When Trump says jump, Canada really has no choice but to say how high.

[Grey Fox]

Didn't register to me that the Canada-US border was problematic. I mean, it's obviously a very long and hard to police border, but wouldn't have thought it was a significant route for migrants seeking to enter the US illegaly.

The thing is that no one's walking to Canada (from outside the USA) unlike Mexico. Relative to the South USA border few illegals(from the US POV) cross from Canada but it happens, everyday. Those people came to Canada because Canada gave them some kind of visa.

One example is Indians immigrants to Canada on Temporary Students Visa that cross to the US and never leave thus becoming illegals. Few but a reality that annoys the border states.

[Grey Fox]

And here is the story in the Globe about the quick response from the Federal government to increase spending on border security.

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/gift/519974dc5e28f762a87fb14c1570523f4fb873adfcfcb945043907ccc3c41650/VRGJFV6MRRDPFOADMS2S2GQNRM/

When Trump says jump, Canada really has no choice but to say how high.

Yes. OVB always said it with scorn but he is right. We're a US client state, we exist because they allow us to do so. If the Trump decides to say "100% tariffs or US State(s)hood", we'll all become US states.

[crazy canuck]

Didn't register to me that the Canada-US border was problematic. I mean, it's obviously a very long and hard to police border, but wouldn't have thought it was a significant route for migrants seeking to enter the US illegaly.

The thing is that no one's walking to Canada (from outside the USA) unlike Mexico. Relative to the South USA border few illegals(from the US POV) cross from Canada but it happens, everyday. Those people came to Canada because Canada gave them some kind of visa.

One example is Indians immigrants to Canada on Temporary Students Visa that cross to the US and never leave thus becoming illegals. Few but a reality that annoys the border states.

All of that is correct.  And we have had a serious problem with our ports.  Mainly in BC and Quebec.  They are federal jurisdiction and the Feds have neglected those problems for too long.

[Barrister]

And here is the story in the Globe about the quick response from the Federal government to increase spending on border security.

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/gift/519974dc5e28f762a87fb14c1570523f4fb873adfcfcb945043907ccc3c41650/VRGJFV6MRRDPFOADMS2S2GQNRM/

When Trump says jump, Canada really has no choice but to say how high.

Yes. OVB always said it with scorn but he is right. We're a US client state, we exist because they allow us to do so. If the Trump decides to say "100% tariffs or US State(s)hood", we'll all become US states.

US would never want that - it would mean too many democratic voters.

That's pretty much the only reason why Puerto Rico has never been offered statehood.  Back in the day they almost always added states in pairs - either to balance slave / not-slave, or Republican / Democrat.

[viper37]

Didn't register to me that the Canada-US border was problematic. I mean, it's obviously a very long and hard to police border, but wouldn't have thought it was a significant route for migrants seeking to enter the US illegaly.

Things have become very dire in Canada under Trudeau's iron rule.  People have become very poor, begging on the streets for the scraps.  Cost of lodging has increased 30x.  Price of groceries 100x.  People can no longer afford to heat their homes due the carbon tax.  Freedom of speech is curtailed for everyone right of center, only the far left can freely express their opinions.

Or so I hear from the Conservatives.   



Seriously, there's been back & forth at the border for a while.  Lots of illegal immigrants came in from the US at the New York-Quebec border while the US just sat and watch until the Federal government finally decided to act on this.  But they left a huge loopholes: airports.  Lots of refugees, some not really refugees started arriving by the country's two biggest airport: Montreal's Pierre-Elliot Trudeau and Toronto's Pearson.  Lot of these people come from the Indian sub continent.  Many are Muslisms and among these, terror suspects sneak aboard the flight, live in Canada for a while, hoping to commit a terror attack in the US at a later point.

The problem has been one of unrestricted immigration.  Too many immigrants came in at the same time (2x as much per year in the last 10 years as the historical average), the system became swamped, security checked got laxed/delayed as well as everything else.  Even the new immigration minister recognized it and the Prime Minister did recognize it, but shifted the blame to "bad agents" instead of assuming his responsibilities.

It's a simple question of numbers.  Every criticism of the fact was met with accusation of racism, as is typical of the left, until the system collapsed under its own weight.  Quebec suffered the brunt of the wave, then Ontario and that's when things started to change a little.  When the government tried to shift the burden across all the provinces to keep the same level of immigration, that's when there was a mini-rebellion across the country: Canadians and their Premiers, from coast to coast rose together to say "no".


Now, since our cost of living has increased a lot, many new immigrants arriving here have found that it's not a paradise and are seeking to find their fortune elsewhere, so they are sometimes illegally crossing the border between Ontario/Quebec and the US.  A few have drowned in the St-Lawrence attempting such crossing, or frozen to death, unfortunately.