What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[grumbler]

Americans gave this man the nuclear codes.

Growing up, I never thought I'd witness the fall of the american empire.

I thought this article was a good assessment: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/

Except that "the American Era" has ended about 25 times in the last 20 years, so the audience response to yet another claim that it has ended is a yawn.

The doomsayers need a new schtick.

[grumbler]

He said last year he wanted to cut social security and medicare. He bullshits about everything so who knows? He made a big list of all the things he promised to do right before the election in 2016 and, to the best of my knowledge, he has failed to do almost all of them. 

Well, he has Made America Great Again, if you can believe him.

Cutting payroll taxes seems to be helping the people who didn't lose their jobs, which is fine I guess but maybe the President should notice lots of people recently lost their jobs. 

Cutting payroll taxes helps the employer, not the employee.  The employer saves money and the employee loses both his own and his employer's contributions to his or her own social security fund, likely reducing future benefits.

[Eddie Teach]

Americans gave this man the nuclear codes.

Growing up, I never thought I'd witness the fall of the american empire.

I thought this article was a good assessment: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/

Except that "the American Era" has ended about 25 times in the last 20 years, so the audience response to yet another claim that it has ended is a yawn.

The doomsayers need a new schtick.

They may have been right in 2016 though. We elected a President who campaigned on America not being great.

[grumbler]

Americans gave this man the nuclear codes.

Growing up, I never thought I'd witness the fall of the american empire.

I thought this article was a good assessment: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/

Except that "the American Era" has ended about 25 times in the last 20 years, so the audience response to yet another claim that it has ended is a yawn.

The doomsayers need a new schtick.

They may have been right in 2016 though. We elected a President who campaigned on America not being great.

They were right after about 2006, when it was clear that the US government had neither the capacity nor the desire for long-range thinking, either for national security or economics.  The Trump administration is just the Dubya administration with the mask pulled away.

[DGuller]

They were right after about 2006, when it was clear that the US government had neither the capacity nor the desire for long-range thinking, either for national security or economics.  The Trump administration is just the Dubya administration with the mask pulled away.

I'm not sure about that.  I do recall not being as chill about W administration in 2006 as I am today, but I don't recall ever thinking that the W administration is not even trying to further American interests.  I guess the mask was convincing enough even for the critics.  They may have had totally idiotic ideas about what those interests were or how to go about them, but I never seriously considered the possibility that they were a Trojan horse or a Manchurian Candidate.

[grumbler]

They were right after about 2006, when it was clear that the US government had neither the capacity nor the desire for long-range thinking, either for national security or economics.  The Trump administration is just the Dubya administration with the mask pulled away.

I'm not sure about that.  I do recall not being as chill about W administration in 2006 as I am today, but I don't recall ever thinking that the W administration is not even trying to further American interests.  I guess the mask was convincing enough even for the critics.  They may have had totally idiotic ideas about what those interests were or how to go about them, but I never seriously considered the possibility that they were a Trojan horse or a Manchurian Candidate.

The Shrubbery were not thinking about long-term US interests at all.  They were laser-focused on furthering the Imperial Presidency.  Remember when Dubya carefully explained that Gitmo was outside the US, and so the detainees there had no rights?  The idea that the US Constitution does not extend outside the US is as dumb and dangerous as anything Trump has said.  Remember the Shrubbery's long-term plan for Iraq?  "They will greet us with flowers, no planning for the post-war needed."  The Dubya administration entered office with a budget surplus.  It left office with the biggest deficit in history.  It was a disaster.

[DGuller]

The Shrubbery were not thinking about long-term US interests at all.  They were laser-focused on furthering the Imperial Presidency.  Remember when Dubya carefully explained that Gitmo was outside the US, and so the detainees there had no rights?  The idea that the US Constitution does not extend outside the US is as dumb and dangerous as anything Trump has said.  Remember the Shrubbery's long-term plan for Iraq?  "They will greet us with flowers, no planning for the post-war needed."  The Dubya administration entered office with a budget surplus.  It left office with the biggest deficit in history.  It was a disaster.

Yeah, no argument there.  I guess I'm falling for the trap I'm warning others about, that one shouldn't normalize pre-Trump GOP just because Trump and Trump-era GOP completely redefined what it means to be a scoundrel.

[The Brain]

"-They are Old Republican, stupid, without intelligence... but you, you will be worse. Camera TV, until it is done!"

[katmai]

You forgot man,woman, person. You have failed the cognitive test.

[The Brain]

You forgot man,woman, person. You have failed the cognitive test.

You're a man woman person.

[Eddie Teach]

You forgot man,woman, person. You have failed the cognitive test.

And you placed them in the wrong order.

[Tamas]

You forgot man,woman, person. You have failed the cognitive test.

And you placed them in the wrong order.

No wonder Trump is so proud he got it right!

[katmai]

You forgot man,woman, person. You have failed the cognitive test.

And you placed them in the wrong order.

I've never claimed I could.

[celedhring]

Is it me or is Barr trying to play intellectual and then proceeds to mix up Rousseau with Robespierre? Those accusations make no sense otherwise 

https://twitter.com/LizRNC/status/1292575407888359430

[Sheilbh]

So Trump is very convincingly denying the Mt Rushmore story: