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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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mongers

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 23, 2018, 08:40:07 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 22, 2018, 09:17:03 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 22, 2018, 09:09:40 PM
Highly competitive category

Beat it if you can.

How about
Quote[When a country (USA) is losing many billions of dollars on trade with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars are good, and easy to win. Example, when we are down $100 billion with a certain country and they get cute, don't trade anymore-we win big. It's easy!

I wonder if Trump dropped a lot of acid in his youth, that might be one explanation for these disconnects? I wouldn't use the word thinking.
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Malthus

Quote from: mongers on March 23, 2018, 09:12:17 AM


I wonder if Trump dropped a lot of acid in his youth, that might be one explanation for these disconnects? I wouldn't use the word thinking.

Now here's a frightening thought: you are all keyed up for your first hallucinogenic experience - you take LSD, knowing you will trip for eight hours ... then, suddenly, your friends depart and in there place, as a tripmate, you find ... Donald Trump.  :D
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Eddie Teach

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Berkut

Here is a scarier thought - Trump isn't on anything.
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derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on March 22, 2018, 08:54:14 PM
Biden has no office. In what way should he retire? But you repeatedly call for Democrats who have no office and are not running for office to retire and go away. Not sure what you mean here short of suicide. :lol:

Stop saying stupid things in public.  Move to Del Boca Vista (or The Villages, which seems to be his favored retirement community).

I will say I've changed my tune on Hillary.  I hope she keeps making asinine public statements.  Every time she opens her mouth, it hurts the Dems. 
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Jacob

Quote from: derspiess on March 23, 2018, 03:42:10 PM
Stop saying stupid things in public.  Move to Del Boca Vista (or The Villages, which seems to be his favored retirement community).

I will say I've changed my tune on Hillary.  I hope she keeps making asinine public statements.  Every time she opens her mouth, it hurts the Dems.

... and right now hurting the Dems is the important part?

Razgovory

Quote from: Jacob on March 23, 2018, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 23, 2018, 03:42:10 PM
Stop saying stupid things in public.  Move to Del Boca Vista (or The Villages, which seems to be his favored retirement community).

I will say I've changed my tune on Hillary.  I hope she keeps making asinine public statements.  Every time she opens her mouth, it hurts the Dems.

... and right now hurting the Dems is the important part?


If he wants to see Tim get killed it is.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

FunkMonk

Donald just tweeted that he wants Congress to give him line-item veto :lol:
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dps

Quote from: FunkMonk on March 23, 2018, 06:33:31 PM
Donald just tweeted that he wants Congress to give him line-item veto :lol:

Who wouldn't want if if they were President?  It's a bad idea IMO, but I'd want it if I were Prez.

Eddie Teach

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jimmy olsen

Truly a paragon of leadership  :rolleyes:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biggest-spending-bill-loser-president-trump-n859421

QuoteThe biggest spending bill loser: President Trump

Congress passed a $1.3 trillion spending bill that ignored the president's priorities. And he knows it.
by Jonathan Allen / Mar.23.2018 / 11:13 PM ET / Updated Mar.24.2018 / 10:53 AM ET

News analysis

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump lost — bigly — when Congress voted for a $1.3 trillion spending bill that repudiates many of his top policy goals and much of his rhetoric.

He didn't get the money he wanted for a wall on the U.S. border with Mexico or a provision cutting off federal funds for "sanctuary cities." Lawmakers not only ignored his fiscal 2018 budget's elimination of scores of federal programs, they increased spending for many of those on his target list. And Congress provided seed cash for a New York-New Jersey tunnel project that Trump tried to kill.

The list of ways in which Congress rejected Trump's priorities — save a massive buildup in defense spending — is nearly as long as the 2,232-page bill that policy wonks are still studying.

More stunning, perhaps, was the way Republicans and Democrats both teamed up to cross out items on Trump's wish list. Almost exactly three-fifths of each party's caucus in the House voted for the so-called omnibus spending bill Thursday, while in the Senate 39 Democrats, 25 Republicans and one independent — Sen. Angus King of Maine — voted for it early Friday morning.


Perhaps that helps explain why, after White House officials and congressional Republican leaders swore up and down this week that Trump would sign the bill, he tweeted Friday morning that he was "considering a VETO" of it.

Trump found himself in a lose-lose political box: accept a bill palatable to most Democrats and Republicans but not his base — or reject it, and risk more serious political damage by taking an extreme position at a time when his party is facing a tough electoral battlefield for control of the House.

That is: Things turned out badly for him. But by vetoing a bill that had such broad, bipartisan support, he could have made things even worse.

So, grudgingly, he announced at the White House Friday afternoon that he would bless it — even as he declared he would "never sign another bill like this again."

"I was thinking about doing the veto," he said. "But because of the incredible gains that we've been able to make for the military, that overrode any of our thinking."

Trump left GOP leaders no choice but to write legislation that would attract Democratic votes while irritating the president and alienating GOP hard-liners — a model that is likely to stick if Trump can't either unify the Republican Party on legislative items or find ways to lure moderate Democrats away from their own leaders.

"President Trump has done little or nothing to consistently build relationships across party lines — or the tools necessary to pressure Democrats, even in red states," said Michael Steel, a former House Republican leadership aide. "Plus, he hasn't been willing or able to get votes from recalcitrant conservative Republicans to pass bills on a party line vote, and avoid going to Democrats for their support. As a result, bipartisan support is necessary for a 'must-pass' bill, and the president doesn't always get his way."

RELATED: TRUMP SIGNS SPENDING BILL — TELLS CONGRESS NEVER AGAIN


Trump was ambivalent enough about the outcome earlier this week that House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., had to remind him of what he'd gained in military spending — and why he'd had to give ground on other policies — before he seemed to endorse the bill publicly.

"They had a good conversation about the wins delivered for the president, and [Trump] is supportive of the bill," Ryan spokeswoman AshLee Strong said Wednesday when it was reported that her boss had an unannounced meeting with the president. White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders issued a similar statement. And, hours later, Trump declared his position on Twitter.

As Trump pointed out, the bill contains a relatively small bump in funding for border security. But Democrats wouldn't sign off on substantial money for an actual wall after they couldn't come to an agreement with the White House over a permanent halt to the deportation of undocumented immigrants who were brought to the country illegally as children.

"It is troubling when we get a tunnel and we don't get a wall," Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., the chairman of the conservative Freedom Caucus, said when details of the bill were first made public.

And even as Vice President Mike Pence touted the bill as a victory for Trumpism during a stop in Manchester, N.H., on Thursday, he noted that it was "hardly perfect" and that it would allow a president who had vowed to make Mexico pay for a border barrier "start" to build the wall.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., who negotiated the final details of the measure with Ryan, McConnell and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said she's perfectly fine with Trump's claiming victory on the wall.

"If you want to think you're getting a wall, you just think it and sign the bill," she said before voting for it.

If the White House and Republicans on Capitol Hill had their druthers, Pelosi's backing wouldn't be necessary to keep the government running. After all, they've shaped their midterm campaign strategy around telling voters she's too extreme for the country.


But Republicans are divided enough that GOP leaders needed Democrats to govern, which gave the opposition enough leverage to block many of Trump's top policy goals. And that, in turn, clearly infuriated Trump.

Kenneth Baer, a former associate director of the White House Office of Management and Budget under President Barack Obama, cast the whole situation as a major political failure for the GOP.

"In a world in which one party controls both houses of Congress and the presidency, you'd expect that the president would get a vast majority of his budget priorities," Baer said. "The fact that he did not is a sign of how out of step Trump is from congressional Republicans, how incompetent his White House is — or both."
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garbon

The New York-New Jersey Tunnel mention is a bit misleading. Yes, some funding (in millions) was granted to a pool that the New York-New Jersey Tunnel project can apply for but state official wanted over 6 billion directly for the project which still has not been resolved.
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Razgovory

Why does he need money for a wall, Mexico is going to pay for the wall.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

mongers

Has he been tweeting yet about how he would also have done what the French gendarme did?
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Maladict

Quote from: mongers on March 24, 2018, 12:45:25 PM
Has he been tweeting yet about how he would also have done what the French gendarme did?

Or about the march outnumbering his inauguration crowd yet again. It was pretty cool.