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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Oexmelin on February 27, 2018, 07:35:11 PM
...and yet, no one cares.


People care. But the Republican insurgents have done a pretty good job making their opponents, Democrats and 'establishment Republicans', appear to be the corrupt ones. And I am not saying that the Dems and old school Republicans are NOT corrupt, corruption has become far too tolerated around here in the name of your partisan group succeeding. The people who wanted to see the swamp drained overlook all of this because they can not stand to see their opponents win.
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dps

Quote from: Valmy on February 27, 2018, 11:12:13 PM
The people who wanted to see the swamp drained overlook all of this because they can not stand to see their opponents win.

Yeah, I think this is a good point, and it raises an interesting question:  Who would you rather vote for, someone corrupt who agrees with you on policy matters, or someone honest who disagrees with you on policy matters?  As a theoretical thought exercise, that's actually a tough one IMO, though in the real world, the choices are seldom, if ever, so stark. 

Grey Fox

I would vote for some corrupt with the right policy.

I cannot support someone who is anti-choice & talks about god in public life even if the other side is a murdering bank robber.
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Eddie Teach

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Valmy

Quote from: Eddie Teach on February 28, 2018, 01:10:36 PM
What did God do to you to make you hate him so much?

Allowed Quebec to be conquered by the British.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

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Big legal win today. U.S. judge sided with the Trump Administration and rejected the attempt to stop the government from building a great Border Wall on the Southern Border. Now this important project can go forward!

Gee Donald, who might this wonderful "US judge" be?
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garbon

I liked this:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/28/trump-california-border-wall-430719

QuoteTrump: We're delaying California border wall until entire project is approved

President Donald Trump declared online Wednesday that his administration would not push forward with plans to build the California section of his promised wall along the U.S.-Mexico border until the entire project is approved.

"I have decided that sections of the Wall that California wants built NOW will not be built until the whole Wall is approved," the president wrote on Twitter. "Big victory yesterday with ruling from the courts that allows us to proceed. OUR COUNTRY MUST HAVE BORDER SECURITY!"

Trump's tweet seemed an apparent reference to his administration's efforts to build prototype walls in California and replace sections of fencing along the California-Mexico border. U.S. District Court Judge Gonzalo Curiel, whom Trump once said was incapable of fairly presiding over a case in which he was a defendant because of his Mexican ancestry, rejected on Tuesday lawsuits brought by the state of California and environmentalists over the government's prototype and fence-replacement efforts.

It was not clear what Trump meant in suggesting that "California wants" a border wall "now," since the state opposed his administration's efforts. White House spokespeople did not immediately return emails seeking further clarity regarding the president's post and whether the administration intends to delay work in California even after securing a judicial victory.

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Jacob

Quote from: Eddie Teach on February 28, 2018, 01:10:36 PM
What did God do to you to make you hate him so much?

I think Grey Fox objects to a whole bunch of oppression carried out in god's name.

You'll note that Grey Fox didn't say anything about god, but rather about politicians talking about god in public life.

Eddie Teach

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Grey Fox

Quote from: Eddie Teach on February 28, 2018, 01:10:36 PM
What did God do to you to make you hate him so much?

Non existent entities have done nothing to me, personally.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Grey Fox on February 28, 2018, 01:46:20 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on February 28, 2018, 01:10:36 PM
What did God do to you to make you hate him so much?

Non existent entities have done nothing to me, personally.


Clarification: Is your problem with "I think Grey Fox objects to a whole bunch of oppression carried out in god's name." or just talking about God in public life?
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dps

Objecting to oppression carrying out in God's name is a good thing.  Objecting to people talking about their faith in public is against both freedom of speech and freedom of religion, and makes you the would-be oppressor.

Jacob

Quote from: dps on February 28, 2018, 03:49:43 PM
Objecting to oppression carrying out in God's name is a good thing.  Objecting to people talking about their faith in public is against both freedom of speech and freedom of religion, and makes you the would-be oppressor.

Not if the only result of your objection is that you don't vote for them. Choosing not to vote for someone does not make you their "would-be oppressor."