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Colin Kaepernick is...

Started by Martinus, September 14, 2016, 05:06:00 PM

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Colin Kaepernick is...

A good guy
10 (22.7%)
A misguided/confused but well meaning guy
9 (20.5%)
A douchebag
8 (18.2%)
Colin who?
12 (27.3%)
An overrated option QB:  NCAA legs, no NFL arm
5 (11.4%)

Total Members Voted: 43

Martinus

Since my Mother Theresa thread was such a success...

alfred russel

A few weeks ago I never would have guessed that Martinus would be starting a thread on Colin Kaepernick. A couple years ago I never would have guessed he would be a backup QB in 2016 (without a major injury, at least).
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mongers

For once I voted truthfully in a Languish poll.  :hmm:
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Martinus

Quote from: alfred russel on September 14, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
A few weeks ago I never would have guessed that Martinus would be starting a thread on Colin Kaepernick. A couple years ago I never would have guessed he would be a backup QB in 2016 (without a major injury, at least).

I guess I should unsubscribe from the O'Reilly Factor then. :(

alfred russel

Quote from: Martinus on September 14, 2016, 05:21:55 PM
I guess I should unsubscribe from the O'Reilly Factor then. :(

Why are you subscribed to the O'Reilly Factor?
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

dps

Quote from: mongers on September 14, 2016, 05:15:51 PM
For once I voted truthfully in a Languish poll.  :hmm:

You voted "Colin who", didn't you.  :)

derspiess

He seems to be a mentally unstable guy who's also a bit of a weasel and a jerk but he's getting too much attention, both positive and negative.
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celedhring

Voted "Colin who" and googled him afterwards. So it's some dude that doesn't sit down when the US anthem gets played? Big deal.

Eddie Teach

I voted for the choice CD added.
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Valmy

Nothing I say here is going to surprise any of you I bet :P

As you know, I support police reform in regards to this issue so I was at first glad to see him do what he did. However, as always, he phrased it vaguely and militantly. So what he is actually asking for and what needs to happen in order for him to stand again for the anthem I have no idea.

It is sort of like this 'bringing awareness' type business where he is going to kneel until somebody else does something instead of demanding some kind of reform or action.

Like maybe he might demand the city of San Francisco commit to a program that adopts de-escalation tactics and maybe holds up some other community as a model and pledges to stop his protest once he sees some action or something. Other NFL players might do so to encourage similar programs in their cities. It could be constructive.

I just get so frustrated with this kind of thing. It seems designed to make everybody feel extremely helpless and angry and not actually achieve anything. Even though I agree with the cause. So no wonder all it has done is generate memes and internet chatter for the past few weeks. No other action is recommended.
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dps

Quote from: Valmy on September 14, 2016, 06:11:32 PM
Nothing I say here is going to surprise any of you I bet :P

As you know, I support police reform in regards to this issue so I was at first glad to see him do what he did. However, as always, he phrased it vaguely and militantly. So what he is actually asking for and what needs to happen in order for him to stand again for the anthem I have no idea.

It is sort of like this 'bringing awareness' type business where he is going to kneel until somebody else does something instead of demanding some kind of reform or action.

Like maybe he might demand the city of San Francisco commit to a program that adopts de-escalation tactics and maybe holds up some other community as a model and pledges to stop his protest once he sees some action or something. Other NFL players might do so to encourage similar programs in their cities. It could be constructive.

I just get so frustrated with this kind of thing. It seems designed to make everybody feel extremely helpless and angry and not actually achieve anything. Even though I agree with the cause. So no wonder all it has done is generate memes and internet chatter for the past few weeks. No other action is recommended.

So you voted the 2nd option?

Valmy

Basically. Though he might be a total tool for all I know. Not an endorsement of him personally.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Admiral Yi

Like Valmy said, he doesn't seem to have thought out the end game.  He's certainly within his rights, and I support him for eh, sitting down for what he believes in.  Would probably have more bite, show business being what it is, if he weren't riding the pine.

On a tangent, Niners look pretty stupid for letting that other QB go.

Martinus

Quote from: alfred russel on September 14, 2016, 05:38:28 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 14, 2016, 05:21:55 PM
I guess I should unsubscribe from the O'Reilly Factor then. :(

Why are you subscribed to the O'Reilly Factor?

I like Bill O'Reilly. Him and Bill Maher are my two main sources on American politics.

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