Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[FunkMonk]

Wait I thought the holocaust happened because Hitler took all the guns away???

[Zanza]

Wow, that's incredibly insulting to the victims of the Holocaust.

It would make some sense if the figure was about 79 million as that was the number of Germans that more or less "followed along" committing the Holocaust.

[mongers]

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Wow, that's incredibly insulting to the victims of the Holocaust.

It would make some sense if the figure was about 79 million as that was the number of Germans that more or less "followed along" committing the Holocaust.

Maybe it's just channelling the bollocks about FEMA death camps?

[Valmy]

Wow, that's incredibly insulting to the victims of the Holocaust.

Especially since the most of the victims of the Holocaust were in Poland and other eastern countries. So unless we are taking a path that results in us being conquered by a virulently genocidal empire I don't get it.

[Syt]

It would make some sense if the figure was about 79 million as that was the number of Germans that more or less "followed along" committing the Holocaust.

I think the meme is about the Jews who for the most part didn't resist abuse, deportation, and eventually murder.

[The Minsky Moment]

"the Jews" were divided across many different countries and many different regions, had different social classes and backgrounds, and did not organize themselves as a single body, Protocols notwithstanding.

So I guess his point is that we should knock down national boundaries and encourage ethnic and religious minorities to emphasize their own identities and organize transational militias??

[Razgovory]

It would make some sense if the figure was about 79 million as that was the number of Germans that more or less "followed along" committing the Holocaust.

I think the meme is about the Jews who for the most part didn't resist abuse, deportation, and eventually murder.

Yet, they did.  They did in the armies of Poland and France and the armies of the Soviet Union.  The Holocaust was a war-time operation, done primarily against defeated peoples.

[Zanza]

It would make some sense if the figure was about 79 million as that was the number of Germans that more or less "followed along" committing the Holocaust.

I think the meme is about the Jews who for the most part didn't resist abuse, deportation, and eventually murder.

They were facing an overwhelming military enemy though. Even the best-armed "well-regulated militia" wouldn't stand much more of a chance than they did. And they did fight back with the means they had, see Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

[Barrister]

"the Jews" were divided across many different countries and many different regions, had different social classes and backgrounds, and did not organize themselves as a single body, Protocols notwithstanding.

So I guess his point is that we should knock down national boundaries and encourage ethnic and religious minorities to emphasize their own identities and organize transational militias??

I think the "argument" is that if you know you're going to be hauled off to a death camp you should fight, kicking and screaming, every step of the way.

Problem is I don't know that was necessarily true - Jews knew they were being rounded up, but not their ultimate fate.  And that being the case there's definitely a strong argument to be made for trying to survive and fight another day.

[CountDeMoney]

Hitler won by six million votes? Is that who he got over?

[Malthus]

It would make some sense if the figure was about 79 million as that was the number of Germans that more or less "followed along" committing the Holocaust.

I think the meme is about the Jews who for the most part didn't resist abuse, deportation, and eventually murder.

They were facing an overwhelming military enemy though. Even the best-armed "well-regulated militia" wouldn't stand much more of a chance than they did. And they did fight back with the means they had, see Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

Yup. Also Jewish partisan bands, etc.

Problem was, ragged groups of civilian survivors living in inaccessible swamps or hiding in Warsaw's sewers and fighting with whatever they could scrounge or steal were not, in the end, really much of a threat to a regular army.

[Martinus]

Yeah, it's the case of slowly boiling a frog, especially in a democracy. Unless the fascist side is stupid enough to try to do a coup over night, it is very difficult to gauge when it is still too early (and you are hindering a democratically elected government) and when it becomes too late and you get shipped off to Auschwitz. It does not help to have media and Timmays of the world who like to keep people anxious.

[Valmy]

Ok but how are we taking the same path? I don't think the Fascist Mexican Army is going to roll over the border and put all Unitarians to death anytime soon.

[Zanza]

Yeah, it's the case of slowly boiling a frog, especially in a democracy. Unless the fascist side is stupid enough to try to do a coup over night, it is very difficult to gauge when it is still too early (and you are hindering a democratically elected government) and when it becomes too late and you get shipped off to Auschwitz. It does not help to have media and Timmays of the world who like to keep people anxious.

It's not that difficult to see for the rest of us. But you were the one who embraced the fascist in this election.

[Valmy]

Yeah, it's the case of slowly boiling a frog, especially in a democracy. Unless the fascist side is stupid enough to try to do a coup over night, it is very difficult to gauge when it is still too early (and you are hindering a democratically elected government) and when it becomes too late and you get shipped off to Auschwitz. It does not help to have media and Timmays of the world who like to keep people anxious.

Well in Nazi Germany's case there was nothing slow about it. Once Hitler was Chancellor it was almost instantaneous.