Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Syt]

[crazy canuck]

But hey tell me about this long history.

You're trolling, right?

[Valmy]

But hey tell me about this long history.

You're trolling, right?

No. Please tell me of the long history of people referring to themselves as WASPs which, again, is a bit of a pejorative term. I mean sure sometimes they do as a bit of a self-effacing gag, but it is not some strong identity. They would more likely to go with English or Scottish or something.

WTF would you think I was trolling? What have I said that would have you ask me this? It is really weird.

[Valmy]

What is the problem being addressed here? Because if it is runaway deficits Reagan pretty much created that problem.

[dps]

But hey tell me about this long history.

You're trolling, right?

No. Please tell me of the long history of people referring to themselves as WASPs which, again, is a bit of a pejorative term. I mean sure sometimes they do as a bit of a self-effacing gag, but it is not some strong identity. They would more likely to go with English or Scottish or something.

WTF would you think I was trolling? What have I said that would have you ask me this? It is really weird.

I agree that it has pejorative connotations nowadays, but I believe that wasn't always the case.  I think people did refer to themselves as WASPs back before WWII, though they more likely used the long form of "white Anglo-Saxon Protestants" rather than the acronym.

[grumbler]

I agree that it has pejorative connotations nowadays, but I believe that wasn't always the case.  I think people did refer to themselves as WASPs back before WWII, though they more likely used the long form of "white Anglo-Saxon Protestants" rather than the acronym.

The acronym didn't exist until the 50s so you are safe in arguing that it was "more likely" that people didn't use it before WW2. 

But I'd want to see evidence that people used even the long form of "white Anglo-Saxon Protestants" to commonly describe themselves before WW2.  I don't recall even running across the term "Anglo-Saxon" as a self-identifying word; "English" is a lot shorter and more widely understood.  The significant numbers of Ulster and Scottish descendants among the elite of New England would likewise argue against "Anglo-Saxon" as an identifier.  I could be wrong, but I'd need evidence that such a bizarre moniker was ever used for self-identification.

[Barrister]

The acronym didn't exist until the 50s

That's a very specific bit of information.  Where did you ever heard about the origin of the WASP acronym?

Quick googling has wiki saying just that, but it actually has a note "needs citation".

[garbon]

https://wordhistories.net/2018/02/02/wasp-american-sociology/

This also suggests 50s but is a blog post so...

[crazy canuck]

But hey tell me about this long history.

You're trolling, right?

No. Please tell me of the long history of people referring to themselves as WASPs which, again, is a bit of a pejorative term. I mean sure sometimes they do as a bit of a self-effacing gag, but it is not some strong identity. They would more likely to go with English or Scottish or something.

WTF would you think I was trolling? What have I said that would have you ask me this? It is really weird.

I said there is a long history of WASPs preferring WASPs, it would be helpful if you read what I post rather than responding to something I did not post.

It is indeed wierd that anyone would deny that WASPs have historically shown preferential treatment to WASPs.   

[garbon]

Wow, so he misunderstood the verb you had used. Why did that need you to then edit your post and add more commentary?

[crazy canuck]

Wow, so he misunderstood the verb you had used. Why did that need you to then edit your post and add more commentary?

Because this happens so often with him I have lost count.

I think I will stop bothering with this place

[garbon]

How would we survive?

[Zoupa]

 

[grumbler]

I said there is a long history of WASPs preferring WASPs, it would be helpful if you read what I post rather than responding to something I did not post.

Maybe if you wrote more clearly, you wouldn't create so much confusion.  "WASPs preferring WASPs" implies that they preferred the acronym "WASPs"

It is indeed wierd that anyone would deny that WASPs have historically shown preferential treatment to WASPs.

It is indeed weird that you didn't say this to begin with.  Yes, people historically have preferred people like themselves.  That's certainly not a distinction that helps anyone define a "WASP."

[Valmy]

"WASPs preferring WASPs" implies that they preferred the acronym "WASPs"

Yes. This. I thought my interpretation was clear from how I responded, I apologize if it was not.