Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Grey Fox]

I'm on twitter too, with my real name. I don't really tweet. I use it to follow hockey & CRTC news.

[Syt]

[Razgovory]

I'm fairly certain that the constitution doesn't have a clause that encourages rebellion.  In fact, the Article IV of the US constitution says  the opposite.

[alfred russel]

Wait, I have an indoor wedding scheduled in exactly 2 months and from talking with vendors the wedding business is booming right now (people who deferred their wedding plus normal wedding business is creating a crush). If Fauci actually said that it seems he is living on planet make believe.

How so? You think Fauci can give exact dates for when individual states decide it's okay to have indoor weddings?

I think Georgia decided it was okay as of April 24, 2020.

Google the recent images of spring break in Florida. If you are shocked or in anyway surprised by the crowds, you are deluded about what is going on. There seems to be a subset of the population that is living in significant isolation since this all started, and I suspect that portion is significantly overrepresented on languish. Our membership came off a video game forum: I suspect we are more introverted, technologically inclined, higher income, educated, etc. than the public at large, which makes this place an echochamber on this stuff.

I've been to Alaska, Utah, Nevada, Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina and Georgia since this all started, and when you get out of the cities it seems most people don't care. Anecdotally lots of college students don't care.

Georgia allowed gyms to open last April. My gym -- being in Atlanta -- declined to open because "while governor kemp has decided to allow us to open we don't want to risk the health of our members and employees."

Like a week later it reopens, and ultimately required a temperature screen to enter, with a mask except when working out, lots of signs saying to wear a mask, restrictions to keep lockers from overcrowding, saunas closed, the restaurant area closed, hourly sanitation of machines by workers, hourly announcements to socially distance and wear a mask, every other machine closed, and a few others. Even though it was open--at first few people came.

I don't know what happened, but my fiance pointed out a few days ago that over time that has gradually all stopped (except the temperature screenings), and the place is now packed. They still do temperature screenings and you are supposed to wear a mask to enter (some aren't though) but it is almost like old times. I'm kind of anxious now to get a vaccine because I feel like I'll definitely get covid there in the near term otherwise.

I know a lot of you guys think I'm just trolling or posting I told you so's, but it is very confusing that we have a covid lockdown check-in thread without people acknowledging that significant segments of life have just returned to normal.

[alfred russel]

Wait, I have an indoor wedding scheduled in exactly 2 months and from talking with vendors the wedding business is booming right now (people who deferred their wedding plus normal wedding business is creating a crush). If Fauci actually said that it seems he is living on planet make believe.

How so? You think Fauci can give exact dates for when individual states decide it's okay to have indoor weddings?

Actually, Fauci was talking about having "normal" weddings "like we used to" with no masks, no social distancing, etc.  There may be selfish people having such weddings now, but then there have always been selfish people.

The transcript is below. he only referenced "in the normal way" in the second follow up and never said we can have indoor weddings with precautions now.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/03/14/fauci_i_cant_give_you_the_exact_date_weddings_can_be_scheduled_this_year_.html#!

[grumbler]

Wait, I have an indoor wedding scheduled in exactly 2 months and from talking with vendors the wedding business is booming right now (people who deferred their wedding plus normal wedding business is creating a crush). If Fauci actually said that it seems he is living on planet make believe.

How so? You think Fauci can give exact dates for when individual states decide it's okay to have indoor weddings?

Actually, Fauci was talking about having "normal" weddings "like we used to" with no masks, no social distancing, etc.  There may be selfish people having such weddings now, but then there have always been selfish people.

The transcript is below. he only referenced "in the normal way" in the second follow up and never said we can have indoor weddings with precautions now.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/03/14/fauci_i_cant_give_you_the_exact_date_weddings_can_be_scheduled_this_year_.html#!

If you read that transcript it is clear that he is talking all along about "weddings in the normal way that we've seen."  Given that the initial prompt was a bizarre and confusing "very quickly, we know President Biden said of backyard gatherings, I've got a staffer or two that wants this question asked of you, and I'm sure they're not alone, which is when can people plan an indoor wedding?"  Fauci starts with "within a reasonable period of time" and then is interrupted and comes back with "I think you're going to see weddings in the normal way that we've seen within a reasonable period of time."  Clearly, that was the answer he was attempting to give all along.

CDC already has advice for those planning indoor weddings, so clearly it feels that they are going to happen.  I'm not sure why you've chosen this hill to die on.

[PDH]

I'm not sure why you've chosen this hill to die on.

Dorsey doesn't need a reason to do something stupid.

[Zoupa]

I've been to Alaska, Utah, Nevada, Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina and Georgia since this all started, and when you get out of the cities it seems most people don't care.

Geez, I sense a common denominator to these states you've visited, and that you of course extrapolate to the whole country.

Dishonestly of course.

[alfred russel]

If you read that transcript it is clear that he is talking all along about "weddings in the normal way that we've seen."  Given that the initial prompt was a bizarre and confusing "very quickly, we know President Biden said of backyard gatherings, I've got a staffer or two that wants this question asked of you, and I'm sure they're not alone, which is when can people plan an indoor wedding?"  Fauci starts with "within a reasonable period of time" and then is interrupted and comes back with "I think you're going to see weddings in the normal way that we've seen within a reasonable period of time."  Clearly, that was the answer he was attempting to give all along.

CDC already has advice for those planning indoor weddings, so clearly it feels that they are going to happen.  I'm not sure why you've chosen this hill to die on.

It isn't clear at all, but to that point the "Guidance for Organizing Large Events and Gatherings" begins with:

CDC continues to recommend that large gatherings be avoided, particularly those in which physical (social) distancing cannot be maintained between people who live in different households. This guidance is intended for those who are planning a large event, such as sporting events, concerts, festivals, conferences, parades, or weddings.

Which of course means that they are recommending against weddings of any size.

They can't legally prevent these things from happening, obviously.

[alfred russel]

I've been to Alaska, Utah, Nevada, Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina and Georgia since this all started, and when you get out of the cities it seems most people don't care.

Geez, I sense a common denominator to these states you've visited, and that you of course extrapolate to the whole country.

Dishonestly of course.

Dishonesty? Fuck off. I told you where I've been to provide the context for my observations. If you don't think I've been to enough places to reach a conclusion, you can say so, but that isn't the same as being dishonest.

[Barrister]

I've been to Alaska, Utah, Nevada, Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina and Georgia since this all started, and when you get out of the cities it seems most people don't care.

Geez, I sense a common denominator to these states you've visited, and that you of course extrapolate to the whole country.

Dishonestly of course.

Dishonesty? Fuck off. I told you where I've been to provide the context for my observations. If you don't think I've been to enough places to reach a conclusion, you can say so, but that isn't the same as being dishonest.

I'm sure what Zoups was getting to was you'd only visited "red" states.

[alfred russel]

I'm sure what Zoups was getting to was you'd only visited "red" states.

I live in Georgia, which FYI did vote for Biden and just elected two Democratic senators. But that point aside, if he thinks my experience is not representative of the country at large - I FUCKING POSTED EXACTLY WHERE I'VE BEEN!!!! Where is the dishonesty?

[Eddie Teach]

I don't think covid-weariness is a political stance in most cases. If people in red states disregard masks/social distance/etc more blatantly, it's because of looser enforcement.

[Valmy]

I don't think covid-weariness is a political stance in most cases. If people in red states disregard masks/social distance/etc more blatantly, it's because of looser enforcement.

Is it actually enforced anywhere? I mean by law enforcement not private property owners.

[Berkut]

I'm sure what Zoups was getting to was you'd only visited "red" states.

I live in Georgia, which FYI did vote for Biden and just elected two Democratic senators. But that point aside, if he thinks my experience is not representative of the country at large - I FUCKING POSTED EXACTLY WHERE I'VE BEEN!!!! Where is the dishonesty?

You visited red states, and specifcally mentioned "outside of cities". So I guess that means that if you limit yourself to specifically Trumpettes, then....oh wait, does anyone care what Trumpers are doing? I mean, we already know they've been ignoring this all along because of FREEDOM.