Climate Change/Mass Extinction Megathread

[Richard Hakluyt]

Add to all that the tipping point problem.  The Amazon creates its own rain forest climate zone.  But it is reaching the point where it does not now cover enough area to do that.  When it stops creating its own self perpetuating rain, the who thing is going to turn into savannah.

Yes, a very important point. Some pessimists think we have already gone past that tipping point; I have also seen articles that suggest that the loss of just 7% of the remaining forest cover will doom the forest.

[Syt]

Whether or not we're beyond tipping point, it appears things will get worse during our lifetimes before they get better.

I'm wary of promises of carbon capture technologies. Yes, I think they can and will play an important role in the fight against climate change. However, I also feel there's voices who seem to argue that they will be the magic bullet so that we can otherwise (mostly) keep going as is, and I hope the reliance on that factor doesn't lead to excessive complacency.

[Josquius]

Have to say I don't like those questions.
If global warming is happening is it caused mostly by humans....
Ehh....even if you 100% agree climate change is a big problem and humans are the ones making it an issue you can still disagree there.
The problem is less that humans are behind all the warming and more that we are fucking up the natural cycle.

[mongers]

Have to say I don't like those questions.
If global warming is happening is it caused mostly by humans....
Ehh....even if you 100% agree climate change is a big problem and humans are the ones making it an issue you can still disagree there.
The problem is less that humans are behind all the warming and more that we are fucking up the natural cycle.

And on the bold, 10, 100, 100,000 or maybe 100 million years?

[Eddie Teach]

Or that the oil companies are mostly responsible. Sure, they're a large part, but every sector of industry and private individuals contribute.

[crazy canuck]

The good news about that data is that even people who identify as Republicans change their view when they read non Fox (ie accurate) information.

[Josquius]

Have to say I don't like those questions.
If global warming is happening is it caused mostly by humans....
Ehh....even if you 100% agree climate change is a big problem and humans are the ones making it an issue you can still disagree there.
The problem is less that humans are behind all the warming and more that we are fucking up the natural cycle.

And on the bold, 10, 100, 100,000 or maybe 100 million years?

All of the above.
Its a finely tuned multiple gears of wildly varying sizes machine.
That we've poured marmite into.

Or that the oil companies are mostly responsible. Sure, they're a large part, but every sector of industry and private individuals contribute.

True.
Who let the coal companies off the hook?

[Admiral Yi]

45% of Americans think climate change is not caused by humans but only 7% think climate change doesn't exist?

[Syt]

45% of Americans think climate change is not caused by humans but only 7% think climate change doesn't exist?

"Climate change is real but it's a natural phenomenon that we can't do anything about!"

[Berkut]

Once you convince people that there isn't any truth, the rest is easy.

[Admiral Yi]

"Climate change is real but it's a natural phenomenon that we can't do anything about!"

Glass half full then.

[mongers]

Not impressed by climate change (XR) protesters breaking into Fawley oil refinery here to try and disrupt it's production.
Don't they know an oil refinery is quite a dangerous place?

[garbon]

They might know given they had to cut through electrified fences to get into the facility.

[mongers]

They might know given they had to cut through electrified fences to get into the facility.

So they were being reckless for some greater good?

[The Minsky Moment]

45% of Americans think climate change is not caused by humans but only 7% think climate change doesn't exist?

"Climate change is real but it's a natural phenomenon that we can't do anything about!"

Don't be silly this is America were talking about.

""Climate change is real but it's all part of God's plan.  The godless heathen atheist Democrats want to stop God's plan because they worship Satan."