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Started by Syt, November 17, 2015, 05:50:30 AM

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Jacob

Quote from: Zanza on July 15, 2021, 11:12:09 PM
The 1000s missing are most likely okay, but the phone network has gone down in some of those villages, so they can't be reached.

Oh good. That's a relief to hear.

I think I would call it 1000s "out of contact" or something like that....

Zanza


Syt

Major floods in Germany are usually around the major rivers, like Elbe, Rhine, etc. after prolonged periods of rain. Intense flash floods in a larger area like this are quite unusual.
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Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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Richard Hakluyt

I simply don't expect things like this to happen in Germany  :(

Talking to a friend online, who lives about 4 miles away from part of the flood, even the mobile network was down for a number of hours; that is now back up of course so the number of "missing" must be falling rapidly.

Tamas

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 16, 2021, 02:34:04 AM
I simply don't expect things like this to happen in Germany  :(


Yeah. :(

A month or so ago there was a tornado at the Czechs that I think caused injuries and a lot of damage (I seem to remember a few deaths but I am probably wrong), which is miniscule stuff compared to this one but still struck me as way out of place.

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Zanza





Death count still rising, close to 100 now.

Tamas



Syt

Asked about an earlier exit from coal generated power, Laschet said, "You don't just change policy because of a day like this."
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Tamas

Quote from: Syt on July 16, 2021, 04:39:51 AM
Asked about an earlier exit from coal generated power, Laschet said, "You don't just change policy because of a day like this."

Hey, but at least you got rid of nuclear power!

Syt

What's likely not helping is that Germany has decades of of straightening rivers and creeks (sometimes putting them in concrete beds), building on flood land etc. which obviously exacerbates weather events like this.
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Syt

https://www.dw.com/en/is-climate-change-fueling-floods-in-germany/a-58282637

QuoteIs climate change fueling floods in Germany?

Overnight flooding has caused devastation across parts of western Europe, claiming dozens of lives. Scientists say that climate change had a role in it.

Around 46 people were reported dead and dozens missing Thursday in Germany, Belgium, Switzerland and the Netherlands. Heavy storms and overnight rainfall caused rivers and water reservoirs to burst their banks and flash floods turned streets into raging torrents, sweeping away cars and destroying buildings.

Over the past several weeks, Germany has experienced a roller coaster ride of high temperatures and dryness followed by episodes of heavy precipitation.

On Wednesday and Thursday, that phenomenon was punctuated by catastrophic flooding in multiple regions across western Germany and neighboring countries. Experts say such extreme weather used to happen once in a generation but may happen more frequently in the future — and with more intensity — a sign that climate change is impacting our lives.

Is this weather normal for Germany?

"Ordinarily, we only see weather like this in winter," as Bernd Mehlig, an environment official from the western German state of North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW) — the region hit hardest by the rains — told public broadcaster WDR. "Something like this, with this intensity, is completely unusual in summer."

Speaking with WDR Thursday, a spokesperson for the city of Hagen's crisis team predicted that water would reach levels not seen more than four times a century, with parts of the city reported inaccessible and isolated due to high water.

"This is the new normal," said Johannes Quaas, meteorologist at Leipzig University. "Climate change is also changing the definition of normal weather. We are slowly approaching a new normal that includes different rainfall patterns."

Did climate change make the flooding worse?

Rising temperatures make extreme weather events more intense. When air heats up it contains more moisture, a phenomenon scientists discovered back in the 19th century. A one-degree increase in temperature increases air's capacity to hold moisture by 7%. Rising global temperatures are also leading to a more rapid evaporation of water on land and at sea — subsequently causing more extreme precipitation events and heavier storms.

"The rainfall we've experienced across Europe over the past few days is extreme weather whose intensity is being strengthened by climate change — and will continue to strengthen further with more warming," said Friederike Otto from the Environmental Change Institute at the University of Oxford.

"As an industrial country, Germany is heating up twice as fast as the global warming rate," said Johannes Quass. "That means the chances of heavy rainfall are 20% higher compared to the 19th century — and 10% higher than when I was born, about four decades ago."

When soil and drainage systems cannot absorb water quickly, or factors like urban development prevent rainfall from dissipating, surface runoff can develop into torrential flash flooding and cause significant damage.

Predicting extreme weather is not difficult but it is still almost impossible to accurately predict where exactly a storm will dump immense amounts of rain and what areas will be hit hardest, said Quass, adding that this makes it difficult for communities to prepare for disaster and mitigate losses.

Moreover, with the destruction of certain vegetation and other land barriers as a result of changing temperature and weather patterns, many natural flood zones have disappeared.

"As long as we keep on emitting CO2, we are likely to keep seeing such heavy rains," said Quass.


(The article is from yesterday, listing a then current death toll.)
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—Stephen Jay Gould

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