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Climate Change/Mass Extinction Megathread

Started by Syt, November 17, 2015, 05:50:30 AM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: mongers on July 09, 2021, 06:29:05 PM
Man,the 'half the world' is burning and it doesn't get a mention in now, have 'we' accepted it as the new normal?  <_<

Pretty much yep. 

There are a large number of wildfires in BC atm.  A decade ago this would have been headline type stuff.  But we all recognize it is what we can expect because of climate change.  That is not suggest that people, other than the climate change deniers, don't think we should do something to stop the warming of the planet.  Its just that the effects of climate change are not particularly news worthy now.  We all know it is happening.

Hopefully that widespread recognition will translate into political action.

Berkut

The new narrative is that climate changes, sure, but humans have little or nothing to do with it.
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Valmy

Quote from: Berkut on July 09, 2021, 09:01:34 PM
The new narrative is that climate changes, sure, but humans have little or nothing to do with it.

Isn't it true that based on solar conditions we should expect the Earth to be cooling right now?
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viper37

Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2021, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: Berkut on July 09, 2021, 09:01:34 PM
The new narrative is that climate changes, sure, but humans have little or nothing to do with it.

Isn't it true that based on solar conditions we should expect the Earth to be cooling right now?
yes.
Maybe.

There is a study about Earth's magnetic field which could impact global warming, as in, make the Earth warmer than it should be.
But strictly speaking of solar output, we are supposed to be receiving less solar energy than the average.  Would that make a zero-sum or would it still make the Earth cooler, I'm not certain.
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viper37

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2021, 09:36:48 PM
Hottest June on record for the US.

Good.  The Northerners won't feel compelled to invade Florida's beaches then :P

EDIT:  :whistle:
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Jacob

The EU has unveiled their climate strategy, which is aimed to reduce CO2 emissions by 55% by 2030 (compared to 1990, with a 24% reduction already achieved).

By 2035, there will be no sales of CO2 emitting cars in the EU according to the plan.

There's lots of other stuff in there too, I'm just beginning to read up on it.

Maladict

It is very ambitious, I like it.
However, it needs a unanimous vote from all member states to pass, which seems exceedingly unlikely.

Valmy

Quote from: Maladict on July 14, 2021, 11:54:18 AM
It is very ambitious, I like it.
However, it needs a unanimous vote from all member states to pass, which seems exceedingly unlikely.

But why though? There are no big oil and gas producers in the EU.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Maladict

Quote from: Valmy on July 14, 2021, 12:09:13 PM
Quote from: Maladict on July 14, 2021, 11:54:18 AM
It is very ambitious, I like it.
However, it needs a unanimous vote from all member states to pass, which seems exceedingly unlikely.

But why though? There are no big oil and gas producers in the EU.

Sure there are. But the problem is political, eastern Europe is the EU's GOP.

Crazy_Ivan80


Valmy

Quote from: Maladict on July 14, 2021, 12:27:03 PM
Sure there are. But the problem is political, eastern Europe is the EU's GOP.

They are broke and corrupt though. Pay them off.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on July 14, 2021, 01:07:49 PM
Quote from: Maladict on July 14, 2021, 12:27:03 PM
Sure there are. But the problem is political, eastern Europe is the EU's GOP.

They are broke and corrupt though. Pay them off.

It would be cheaper and easier just to clandestinely fund Hexit and Pexit campaigns and let them leave in a huff.
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viper37

NYT has apparently published a nice tool.  It's a behind a paywall and my usual tricks don't work, but for subscribers or those who manage to access it:
How much hotter is your hometown since your birth year


Although not as precise as the other tool, this one shows a map of Earth with the relative temperature changes since 1894.  Blue is colder than 1894, red is warmer (duh!).
https://climate.nasa.gov/interactives/climate-time-machine
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