Climate Change/Mass Extinction Megathread

[Oexmelin]

So capitalism will successfully conquer climate change? 

Everyone imagines themselves as Cortez, and not as one of the Mexica.

[derspiess]

I don't, really.  But what he did was a pretty incredible feat.

[Oexmelin]

What I meant is that, continuing your analogy of capitalism conquering climate change, it may indeed turn out to be true, but when, and at what cost? The people championing waiting for capitalism to conquer climate change are usually those who imagine themselves as the winner of the process (Cortez), and not as those who lost their lives, or became miserable because of it - people who think they will not have to suffer during a process that promises to be full of sufferings and upheavals. 

[The Brain]

I have long argued on this forum for humanity to move to underground cities powered by nuclear reactors.

[Eddie Teach]

You want us to be cave men?

[The Brain]

You want us to be cave men?

Cave. Men.

[The Minsky Moment]

So capitalism will successfully conquer climate change? 

No doubt it could, that's certainly a solid Marxist thesis.

Sure we might lose a bunch of coastal cities, cost liives, reduce the value of trillions of investment. But capitalism can keep rolling through all that, adjusting to the changes in marginal schedules of production and cost as it goes. Whether you find that reassuring is another question.

[Razgovory]

I don't, really.  But what he did was a pretty incredible feat.

Marty once said I had "pretty, incredible feet."

[Eddie Teach]

How did he happen to see your feet?

[mongers]

How did he happen to see your feet?

I saw them only when Raz was defeated .

[Razgovory]

How did he happen to see your feet?

Footbook profile.

[crazy canuck]

The main river that runs through this area is warming.  In the past it reached temperatures in that stressed the salmon swimming up river, on average, two days a year.  But over the last eight years it has was that warm for 22 days.  There is a concern that the run this year could be severely reduced because of continued warming this year.

The significance of that? "In the four-year life cycle of a Fraser River sockeye, 2018 is supposed to be one of the big years — where the river runs red with millions of fish."  If this run declines the viability of salmon in this area is questionable. 

  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sockeye-salmon-water-temperature-1.4771607

[Monoriu]

The main river that runs through this area is warming.  In the past it reached temperatures in that stressed the salmon swimming up river, on average, two days a year.  But over the last eight years it has was that warm for 22 days.  There is a concern that the run this year could be severely reduced because of continued warming this year.

The significance of that? "In the four-year life cycle of a Fraser River sockeye, 2018 is supposed to be one of the big years — where the river runs red with millions of fish."  If this run declines the viability of salmon in this area is questionable. 

  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sockeye-salmon-water-temperature-1.4771607

Scottish salmon is much better than Canadian ones 

[Syt]

Scottish salmon is much better than Canadian ones 

They're also affected:

http://www.thenational.scot/news/16064252.Scientists_launch_tool_to_help_Scottish_salmon_survive_climate_change/

[Berkut]

The University of Dayton is installing 4,000 solar panels...to provide 2% their power. Sigh.

4000 10' square panels? Or 4000 1" square panels?

The raw number of panels doesn't really mean much of anything.