Shootings and explosions in Paris

[Josephus]

Ok, no, early reports said around 100 people were taken hostage, so I guess the hostages were all killed.

[Admiral Yi]

The "Jungle" refugee camp in Calais has been set on fire, France and Europe is going to erupt from this.

Any idea by whom?

[viper37]

140 dead...

[Liep]

The "Jungle" refugee camp in Calais has been set on fire, France and Europe is going to erupt from this.

Any idea by whom?

Twitter speculates it might be revenge from right wingers.

[garbon]

140 dead...

[Martinus]

The "Jungle" refugee camp in Calais has been set on fire, France and Europe is going to erupt from this.

Any idea by whom?

Possibly neonazi hooligans - this is not the first fire at a refugee camp in Europe in the recent weeks.

[jimmy olsen]

140 dead

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/13/shootings-reported-in-eastern-paris-live

I know this me being an armchair general, but the police should have stormed the building as soon as possible. You have to be prepared to lose cops to save civilians. Waiting an hour until you've got all your ducks in line is just not something you can do when dealing with these death cultists.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I think you are underestimating how "civilian" a city like Paris is.

[katmai]

Please shut up Tim.

[KRonn]

Ok, no, early reports said around 100 people were taken hostage, so I guess the hostages were all killed.

Reports did say that some people escaped, some of those escapees using social media, or so it's reported.

[mongers]

There was never a hostage* situation in the concert hall, they were just holding them whilst they worked their way through the most effecient way to kill as many of them as possible.

I think 'we'/the authorities have to move to something similar to the modern response by passengers to an airline hijack.



*people only become hostages once the attackers issue a series of demands/open negotiation with authorities, these sort of guys have no intentions of coming to a peaceful compromise

[Zanza]

Very sad news.

Is it clear whether the attackers are all dead or could they still be at large?

[jimmy olsen]

I think you are underestimating how "civilian" a city like Paris is.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here?

Obviously only a fraction of a percent of the population are police, but given the size of the city that still adds up to thousands if not tens of thousands of officers .

[mongers]

Very sad news.

Is it clear whether the attackers are all dead or could they still be at large?

Yes, the leaders of these attackers would like to see some get away or copycat attacks to occur so it can extend the confusion and the public anxiety.   

[katmai]

Trump is such a douche.